#419 – Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI

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Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, Sora, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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Sam’s X: https://x.com/sama
Sam’s Blog: https://blog.samaltman.com/
OpenAI’s X: https://x.com/OpenAI
OpenAI’s Website: https://openai.com
ChatGPT Website: https://chat.openai.com/
Sora Website: https://openai.com/sora
GPT-4 Website: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4

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OUTLINE:
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) – Introduction
(07:51) – OpenAI board saga
(25:17) – Ilya Sutskever
(31:26) – Elon Musk lawsuit
(41:18) – Sora
(51:09) – GPT-4
(1:02:18) – Memory & privacy
(1:09:22) – Q*
(1:12:58) – GPT-5
(1:16:13) – $7 trillion of compute
(1:24:22) – Google and Gemini
(1:35:26) – Leap to GPT-5
(1:39:10) – AGI
(1:57:44) – Aliens