Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse provide their unique take on everything and anything going on in South Africa and the world at large, with a focus on history, philosophy and current affairs. Getting away with murder in South Africa, Russian oligarchs, American elections and geopolitical strategy all feature in this unconventional podcast.
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Nick and Gabriel chat about flying cars, the DA's march to Luthuli House and what the definition of journalism is. Recommendations: Gabriel: https://youtu.be/3vkgROIINEs Nick: Greyhound https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6048922/द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Gabriel and Nick chat about loadshedding, America at the end of last year, South Africa at the end of last year and if AI is going to destroy us all.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Gabriel tells Nick about why he thinks that Ramaphosa's impeachment case is the wrong one, and why it matters. Recommendations: Nick Century of Crisis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwXlr4_pGhM Gabriel: Supreme Court oral arguments https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-476द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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The tribe, the child, parole and the rule of law
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Nick and Gabriel chat about a U.S. supreme court case involving Native American children, the release of Chris Hani's killer, the ongoing Zuma legal battles and Ramaphosa's visit to the UK. Recommendations: Nick: Walking Streets of South Sudan https://youtu.be/sNSIhIzr3io Gabriel: The Soccer World Cup https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/watch/1abAi3Nl…
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Nick and Gabriel discuss the U.S. Supreme Court case on Affirmative Action at Harvard. They then chat about the recent U.S. mid-terms and what they mean for the future of the Republican Party. Recommendations: Nick: BLOODYWOOD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iKjSCTxke8 Gabriel: Copenhagen https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0340057/…
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The terror of gerrymandering
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Nick and Gabriel chat about terror threats and the problem of gerrymandering. Recommendations: Nick: Pennsylvania Senate Race Full Debate 2022: Dr. Oz vs Fetterman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9wb0423dxs Gabriel: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-1086द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Gabriel and Nick discuss the direction of the country and how it could be gravely threatened by the wrong kind of puritanical impulse. Recommendations: Nick: TikTok Parent ByteDance Planned To Use TikTok To Monitor The Physical Location Of Specific American Citizens: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/10/20/tiktok-bytedance-surveill…
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Frames of reference, Truss and Prince
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Gabriel and Nick discuss the current messy state of British politics, and then head into a winding discussion of some of the cases before the U.S. supreme court, notably on the issue of copyright. Recommendations: Nick: WeBuyCars: https://www.webuycars.co.za/ BB King: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp0rRff7gWk Gabriel: Vanity Fair: PURPLE FAME htt…
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Gabriel and Nick chat about the difficult week for freedom and prosperity in SA with the retaking of Joburg by the ANC as well as the passage of the land courts and expropriation bill. Recommendations: Nick: The Dispatch https://thedispatch.com/ Gabriel: How Nickelback became the most hated band ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFC4OFWIPtw…
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Nick and Gabriel discuss the latest threats to property rights in SA, the abortion debate, their thoughts on the upcoming U.S. midterms and the passing of Queen Elizabeth II. Recommendations: Nick: "The weakness of Xi Jinping" https://www.foreignaffairs.com/china/xi-jinping-china-weakness-hubris-paranoia-threaten-future Gabriel:The Antislavery Acti…
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Gabriel and Nick chat about the EFF-Afriforum hate speech court case and some of the principles of free speech. They also chat about the Trump-FBI raid. Recommendations: Nick: https://dailyfriend.co.za/2022/08/26/sorcery-in-samlesbury/ Gabriel: https://youtu.be/pAeoJVXrZo4द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Nick and Gabriel take a meander through the place of Bloemfontein in SA today, the Zuma medical parole trial, the speech Gabriel gave at UNISA, the power of theater and Republican Party Reptiles. Recommendations: Nick: Inda and Pakistan https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/partition-wasn-t-inevitable Gabriel: The danger of one thingism https://daily…
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The Conservative Iceberg: SA Edition
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Gabriel and Nick chat about the life of John Kane-Berman and then about the powerful and undiscussed conservative soul of South Africa which is rising to the surface with the collapse of the ANC. Recommendations: Gabriel: Lord Sumption: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YleLkFnwqK0 Nick: Fusionism: https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/07/why-both-type…
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Gabriel and Nick chat about the IRR's legal arguments for why Jacob Zuma should not have been released from jail at the direction of Arthur Fraser and what Zuma can do to turn around his reputation and the country. Recommendations: Nick: Heilung https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVbc_Fwbt50 Gabriel: Sibelius Theme and Variations for Solo Cello (1887)…
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What even is the Middle East?
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Nick and Gabriel ask the question, What is the Middle East? They also discuss the plans for an Eskom 2, South Africa's wild west past and Biden's trip to the Middle East. Recommendations: Nick: Tolkien Lore https://www.youtube.com/c/TolkienLorePodcast/videos Gabriel: The Churchill factor https://www.amazon.com/Churchill-Factor-How-Made-History/dp/1…
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The passing of a PM and the resignation of a PM
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Gabriel and Nick chatt about the shocking murder of Shinzo Abe and Abe's legacy they also discuss Boris Johnson and his final defeat lastly they mention Bheki Cele and his racist tirade. Recommendations: Nick: Goodbye, Boris https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/07/goodbye-boris/ Gabriel: https://twitter.com/TheKiffness/status/1545002632913342464…
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Maybe we should try convincing people?
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Nick and Gabriel discuss recent rulings by the United States supreme court, the arguments that underpin them and the politics involved. Specifically the lies about the repeal of Roe v Wade, the underpinning of the administrative state and the opportunity for Democrats to win big. Recommendations: Nick: The Absurd 2nd Century Space Opera You'll Neve…
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Talking about difficult things
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Gabriel and Nick chat about how not talking about the difficult things can very quickly backfire on you. Recommendations: Nick: Saudi Arabia and the U.S. https://thedispatch.com/p/saudi-arabia-welcomes-a-likely-reset Gabriel: The right thing to do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdfcR-8hEY Supreme court ruling https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions…
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There is a disturbance in the force
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Nick and Gabriel chat about urban decay the end of ANC dominance and the cynicism of American politics. Recommendations: Nick: https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/06/birthplace-saudi-state-becomes-tool-new-nationalism Gabriel: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/opinion/bimbo-tiktok-feminism.html…
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The internet assures me that the title's spelling is the correct one. Nick and Gabriel chat about a recent spate of firings, or more accurately a suspension, a firing and two election losses. Recommendations: Gabriel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1oeJwF5tG4 Nick: https://dailyfriend.co.za/2022/06/10/the-amritsar-crisis/…
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Gabriel and Nick discuss a little more about the Depp and Heard trial, and then move on to talk about the recent by-elections and how they suggest the age of the ANC is drawing to an end. They also discuss the criminal accusations made about President Cyril Ramaphosa and what these might mean for the country. Recommendations: Nick: Pirates of the C…
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Pox, defamation and drinking
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Gabriel and Nick discuss the latest on the Monkeypox outbreak, the Amber and Johnny Trial and the incident at Stellenbosch university. (Warning the later half of the podcast contains some fairly gross stories of urine related university stories.) Recommendation: Nick: Star Trek The original series Gabriel: Professor Katz https://paw.princeton.edu/a…
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The Centre Folds, Black Stars & Leaky Robes
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Gabriel and Nick discuss the latest scientific discovery about our galaxy and then move onto the problems with and consequences of, the leak from the U.S. supreme court regarding its draft opinion on abortion legislation. Recommendations: Nick: Worldle https://worldle.teuteuf.fr/ Tradle https://oec.world/en/tradle/ Gabriel: The Tragedy of Macbeth h…
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Nick and Gabriel discuss the weirdness that is French politics and the results of the latest French presidential election. Recommendations: Nick: https://www.youtube.com/c/MarkFeltonProductions/videos Gabriel: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050083/द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Gabriel and Nick discuss the Elon Musk's offer to buy Twitter as well as the state of the media world today. They also manage to have a (relatively) short discussion on the situation in the Ukraine, Russia war.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Nick and Gabriel discuss the problem with "wet noodle" centerists, a new law in Florida and the latest toxic development in the U.S. culture war. Recommendations: Gabriel: https://www.amazon.com/Childhood-Jesus-J-M-Coetzee/dp/0143125761 Nick: https://dailyfriend.co.za/2022/04/04/race-lessons-from-rwanda/…
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Gabriel and Nick discuss the need for new topics for South African Comedy , the nomination of a new American supreme court justice and their thoughts on how the Russo-Ukrainian war is going so far. Nick: Equipment losses of the war https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html Gabriel: George Orwell's review of M…
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Celebrating a step on the road to peace in South Africa.
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Nick and Gabriel chat about the 30 year anniversary of the 1992 whites-only referendum on ending Apartheid. Recommendations: Gabriel: Remember St. Patrick's day is 1992 referendum day Nick: Jim Geraghty from National Review https://www.nationalreview.com/author/jim-geraghty/द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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How can we escape the nightmare of war?
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Nick and Gabriel fail to keep the show short again in a sober reflection on the horror unfolding in Ukraine as war once again breaks out in Europe. Recommendations: Gabriel https://www.yalebooks.co.uk/display.asp?K=9780300259933&%20M.%20E.%27 Nick Life of Boris cooking playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKfmRhfuI8g&list=PLbS0HkS8Xsorrdr3pPk4l…
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Gabriel and Nick chat about the Afriforum vs. EFF court case around the chant "shoot the Boer". Recommendations: Gabriel: https://www.politicsweb.co.za/opinion/commandante-lushaba-and-the-fhrer Nick: https://www.pricecheck.co.za/search?search=Steri+Stumpieद्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Nick and Gabriel discuss the controversy around Joe Rogan and his use of the 'n-word', they dive into a deeper examination of language, codes of conduct and race. Recommendations: Iran's new missile: https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/02/iran-hard-liners-overjoyed-new-missile Moscow times: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/09/putins-whi…
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Should bloodlines be borderlines?
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Nick and Gabriel talk about Ukraine and Russia again and how the conflict intersects with race and the nation state, this time with more history focus. What was a planned 5-minute segment turns into almost the whole discussion, as fits their style. They also briefly talk about Gabriel’s theory that Ramaphosa is indeed the real head of the RET facti…
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Gabriel explains to Nick and the world about why he fears "thought inflation"द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Good news, Zondo and the inscrutable East
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Nick and Gabriel are back with a discussion of the good Covid news, the good Zondo commission news and a long argument with each other over the attitude of Russia and the West to each other.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Slaves, mandates and devolutionary holidays
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We suggest you listen to this podcasts in parts because it is really long. Nick and Gabriel stumble into a discussion of slavery and then move onto chatting about vaccine mandates, what connects them and the magic of federalism. Recommendations: Gabriel: www.strongvote.co.za/post/thestrongvote, and Tick tick....Boom the play or the film. Nick: Moth…
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Omicron, SA2 electric Boogaloo
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Nick and Gabriel chat about the new Covid-19 variant and then proceed to complain about state of global institutions. Recommendations: Gabriel: The new bond movie No Time to Die Nick: ElectroBoom https://www.youtube.com/c/Electroboomद्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Modern war: war has changed or have we?
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Nick and Gabriel discuss the return of conventional conflict with a modern twist, with a focus on the conflict in Ethiopia and with a dash of the war on the Ukrainian border.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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3 Crickets: Discussing de Klerk with Rian Malan
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A somewhat less messy, chaotic and distracted version of the now lost episode. Gabriel and Nick chat to Rian Malan about the life of F.W. de Klerk and what his life meant for SA.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Gabriel and Nick chat about the concepts of the Liberal Slideaway and the the Liberal Slidebackद्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Frans Cronje joins the Crickets
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Gabriel, Nick and Frans Cronje discuss the decadence of "the west" and the fate of civilization.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Don't walk the dog with an upset stomach
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Gabriel and Nick discuss the Cliff central Nandos saga, the importance of anti-body tests and what's going on in the U.S.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Gabriel and Nick chat about the Princeton university members who have recently won Nobel prizes they also discuss the global energy crisis and the DA poster mess.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Smoothing it over with hypocrisy
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This meandering episode discusses tigers, treason and hypocrisyद्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Seeing things from a French perspective
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In this wildly tangential episode, Nick and Gabriel discuss what makes the Geo-politics of France tick among other things. Note:We had to upload the episode without the intro music, the intro music will return next episode.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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The curious case of Larry Elder and the Egg
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Gabriel and Nick chat about the egging of Republican Larry Elder, and what the media response says about race esteem teams. They also discuss the death of the man accused of the first internationally recognized Apartheid political murderद्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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The end of the war in Afghanistan
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Nick and Gabriel talk about the end of Afghan war and ask the question, how did it come to this? "Where is the Horse and the Rider?"द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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The battle for the soul of South Africa's democracy
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Nick and Gabriel return after Gabriel's recovery from Covid to bring you some news about how depressed Nick is about Afghanistan and more importantly for us, about the IRR's battle to protect our electionsद्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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Nick and Gabriel peer into the future and discuss the way dictators come to power.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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3 Crickets in a Thorn Tree with Rian Malan
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Nick and Gabriel interview Rian Malan about his recent article in the New York Post.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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It was the best of riots it was the worst of riots
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Nick and Gabriel discuss the week of chaos and anarchy that hit South Africa.द्वारा Nicholas Lorimer and Gabriel Crouse
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