S4E59 UNDERSTANDING DEADLY FORCE - Part 2

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UNDERSTANDING DEADLY FORCE - Part 2

With Retired FBI and host of FBI Retired Case Files Review podcast, Jerri Williams

S4E59

In this gripping episode of "Stop the Killing," hosts Sarah Ferris and Katherine Schweit continue their deep dive into the deadly force policy within law enforcement. Joined once again by the insightful and experienced Jerri Williams, retired FBI agent and host of the "FBI Retired Case File Review" podcast, this episode picks up from where part one left off. Together, they explore the critical aftermath of deadly force incidents and the profound impact these moments have on officers' mental health and their ability to continue serving.

Detailed Summary

The episode delves into the psychological toll on law enforcement officers involved in deadly force incidents, emphasizing the necessity for counseling and psychiatric services. Jerri Williams shares compelling stories from her career and her podcast, providing real-life examples of the challenges faced by officers. The hosts and Jerri discuss the intense responsibility officers carry, the training they undergo, and the split-second decisions they must make. This episode also features powerful clips from Jerri’s podcast, highlighting firsthand accounts from law enforcement officers who have been in life-threatening situations.

Guest Introductions

Jerri Williams: A retired FBI agent with an illustrious 26-year career, Jerri Williams brings a wealth of knowledge and firsthand experience to the discussion. She is also the host of the popular "FBI Retired Case File Review" podcast, where she interviews former FBI agents about their most intriguing cases. Her background and deep understanding of law enforcement dynamics make her an invaluable guest for this episode.

Episode Highlights with Timestamps

• [00:00:00] - Introduction to the episode and Jerri Williams.
• [00:00:24] - Recap of part one and transition into today’s topics.
• [00:01:00] - Discussion on the necessity of counseling for law enforcement officers.
• [00:02:16] - Jerri shares recurring dreams and the psychological impact of her career.
• [00:09:01] - Insights into the Miami shootout and its impact on FBI training protocols.
• [00:23:16] - The Broad Street Shootout with Jim Sweeney and Rich Macko (Episode 161).
• [00:28:00] - Reflections on deadly force in public spaces and the Kansas City parade incident.
• [00:37:09] - Jerri’s website and resources for further information.

Relevant Resources and Links

• Jerri Williams’ Website
• FBI Retired Case File Review Podcast
• Episode 161: Jim Sweeney and Rich Macko
• Episode 263: Craig Arnold
• Episode 267: John Kutcha
• Episode 119: Ed Mireles
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