Kiese Laymon and Deesha Philyaw ponder how to tell true stories and live with success

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This week on SouthBound, host Tommy Tomlinson talks to Deesha Philyaw, author of “The Secret Lives of Church Ladies,” and Kiese Laymon, author of books including “Heavy” and “Long Division.” They’re teaming up for a new podcast on nonfiction writing, and they have lots of thoughts about it.

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