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Outlining the family journey and sharing experiences for those with loved ones in active addiction or fighting addiction in a recovery program. The host Hank has a loved one who has battled drug addiction and uses candor, real examples, and humor to share a story that is real and hopeful - and always genuine.
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Let's Talk Addiction & Recovery

Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation Presents Let's Talk Addiction and Recovery with William C. Moyers

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Hear what leading addiction and recovery experts are talking about—addiction trends, topics and challenges as well as research, practices and advances that point the most promising way forward. Author and recovery advocate William C. Moyers serves as host of this thought-provoking interview series, brought to you by the renowned Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation. Listen in on Moyers' conversations with his colleagues who work at the forefront of addiction treatment, recovery and prevention, inc ...
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Mike and Nat are two middle-aged suburban dads wrestling with addiction and recovery while trying to juggle home life, work, and staying sober. Listen as they discuss current topics in the recovery community including 12 Step, alternative addiction recovery and the newest medical research . Listen to the guys talk about their daily struggle to maintain their recovery and anonymity in the world of soccer moms and PTA meetings. If the neighbors only knew...
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Episode 123: RMA Interview: Dave Smith-The Dharma of Addiction and Recovery This week Mike and Nat welcome Dave Smith to the podcast to discuss Buddhism, recovery, and the dharma of your life. Dave is an internationally recognized Buddhist meditation teacher, addiction treatment specialist, and published author. His background is rooted in the Insi…
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Writer Maggie Moe and composer Joshua Vranas are telling a new story about addiction and recovery that does away with shame and stigma. Instead of normalizing old stereotypes and outdated archetypes, Moe and Vranas wrote and scored a musical, My Pet Dragon, that tells a different story–one that’s centered in hope, trust and courage and, when taking…
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Susie Brooks, PhD, founder of Veritas Academy, felt powerless when students came into the classroom with substance use issues, or knew someone struggling. She recognized addiction as a disease—one that injures every community—but she didn't know how to help. So she attended the Graduate School of Addiction Studies to gain the tools and skills she n…
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Parents are rightly terrified of fentanyl. But what behaviors should set off alarm bells? And how can parents keep the conversation pointed in the right direction when panic and big emotions start arriving? Clinician Sarah Polley, MD, joins host William C. Moyers to explain what teenagers are thinking about fentanyl, the signs they're using, and ho…
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Shame and stigma kept Kathryn Burgum silent about her recovery for fifteen years. After she became First Lady of North Dakota, she learned from host William Moyers himself after an event where they both spoke: "The solution is so simple—we end stigma by talking about it." Now she's leading head and heart first, putting her own story front and cente…
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RMA-Episode 113: From Addiction’s Trance to Recovery’s Dance: A Discussion of Alcohol, Addiction and Public Policy with Grant Boyken Grant is back! Join us as the OG Monkster and creator of the popular website, soberliningsplaybook.com, shares his insights on the current public policy issues surrounding drug and alcohol addiction, and catches us up…
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Marketed as safe and cool with fun flavors and clever devices, vapes are hooking a new generation on nicotine. Health experts warn that it's not only water vapor and nicotine surging into the lungs: All kinds of other chemicals are ingested too. Psychiatrist Sara Polley, MD, talks with host William C. Moyers about the prevalence, known health risks…
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Out on tour after getting sober, indie-rocker John Solomon made a point of hosting conversations about addiction, mental health and recovery wherever he went. The experience inspired his next career move: Going to graduate school and becoming an addiction and mental health counselor. Today he serves as CEO of the Alaska Behavioral Health Associatio…
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RMA-Episode 112: Is Addiction a Conscious Choice? Do we choose to use? In this week’s episode of RMA, Mike and Nat delve into the complex and often contentious debate surrounding addiction: Is it a choice? A disease? Something else? They'll explore the arguments on both sides, drawing on scientific studies, insights from addiction research, and a c…
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As author and advocate Dawn Nickel likes to say, "we're all recovering from something." For her, those somethings include alcohol, cocaine, anxiety, marijuana and workaholism. Tune in as the co-founder of the global SHE RECOVERS movement talks with host William C. Moyers about the inspiration behind her daily meditation book for "like-minded, like-…
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Steve thought the world would come crashing when he packed his bags for treatment. A savvy businessman and CEO, he considered himself too successful, or perhaps too important, to go to treatment: after all, three families relied on him for financial support. Now he admits that was only an excuse, and everything that comes after—hope, healing and co…
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