Episode 67 - Jenny Chapman, Part 2: Processing the Death of My Child & Advocating for Life

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In part 2 of our conversation with Jenny Chapman, we continue exploring her young daughter Tara's courageous battle with brain cancer. Starting with a re-telling of their shared vision of Heaven, we hear about Tara's miraculous recovery and the challenges she faced as her health and speech deteriorated before her passing.
Jenny shares how she drew courage from Tara's example, emphasizing that we don't get to decide what miracles look like, and how, despite our faith in God, suffering is an unavoidable part of life.
The conversation then shifts to Jenny's involvement in the New Zealand Pro-Life movement. She highlights the role of Pro-Life advocacy in protecting the elderly, disabled and terminally ill, and discusses the importance of a culture and community that values life.
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0:00 - Previously
0:32 - Intro
0:47 - A vision of Heaven
3:25 - Tara's condition and miraculous recovery
6:00 - The use of sign language as speech deteriorated
8:09 - The final days before Tara's death from Brain Cancer
10:30 - The parallel of birth and death
11:08 - Drawing courage from Tara's example
11:30 - We don't get to decide what the miracle looks like
13:57 - Just because we love God doesn't mean to get to avoid suffering
15:45 - What stands out most to Jenny from Tara's illness
19:12 - Jenny's involvement in the New Zealand Pro-Life movement
21:09 - Pro-Life is anti-suic*de
22:23 - The Pro-Life role to protect the disabled and terminally ill
24:19 - Taking care of the sick, elderly and dying
26:20 - Thou shalt not kill
27:03 - Culture says abortion is ok in these circumstances
27:47 - Does r*pe make abortion ok?
28:44 - Does being born into poverty make abortion ok?
29:42 - It's very cost-effective for the New Zealand government to abort babies in poor families
30:34 - How little encouragement it takes for a woman to keep her baby
31:53 - Do mental health problems make abortion ok?
32:56 - Abortion is no longer shameful, adoption is shameful
33:22 - Coming up next week
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