Ex-Mormon Frustrations and Arrested Development (#168)

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Great short Bonus Show for all our loyal podcast fans. This week a tremendous comedy team shares comedy and music...it's "Mack & Jamie" , stars of TV's "Comedy Break"; sharing loads of musical humor. Enjoy!

about a year ago 1:03:27

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Mike and Stephanie vent recent frustrations around trying to figure out life in middle age after leaving Mormonism, including:

Feeling disproportional amounts of guilt, shame and fear
Ex-Mormon Rumspringas
The call to live a slower lifestyle
Public projection and perception
Embracing life's uncertainties
And much more...

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Ex-Mormon Frustrations and Arrested Development (#168)

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Mike and Stephanie vent recent frustrations around trying to figure out life in middle age after leaving Mormonism, including:

Feeling disproportional amounts of guilt, shame and fear
Ex-Mormon Rumspringas
The call to live a slower lifestyle
Public projection and perception
Embracing life's uncertainties
And much more...

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