Sales, Success, and Stabilizing Hypochlorous Acid: A CEO's Journey

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On this enlightening episode of the "Love Your Sales" podcast, Leighann Lovely sits down with Bill Maher, an esteemed business leader and current CEO of Curitiba Bay Incorporated. Bill shares captivating stories from his remarkable career, including his military service, the successful sale of his electrical engineering firm, and his venture into stabilizing hypochlorous acid—a game-changing product with vast potential in healthcare. Their discussion encompasses the challenges of entrepreneurship, the importance of maintaining strong organizational culture, and the evolving dynamics of modern business practices. Bill's incredible journey offers valuable insights and inspiration for aspiring entrepreneurs and seasoned business professionals alike. Don't miss this episode filled with real-world wisdom and innovative ideas.

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Leighann Lovely: Welcome to another episode of Love Your Sales. I am so thrilled. I am joined by Bill Maher. He is a business leader known for his innovation and expertise in technology and healthcare. Currently holds the position of CEO at Curitiba Bay Incorporated. Maher is responsible for overseeing the production of stabilizing hyperchlorous acid, a natural antiviral agent recognized for its effectiveness in fighting [00:02:00] pathogens.

Curetiva Bay, Maher successfully led a respectful electrical engineering firm with a global presence. Under his guidance, the company expanded to five offices across the United States and Hong Kong, solidifying its position as a key player in the industry. Mayor played a pivotal role in the development of more than 6, 000 critical power systems, including the renowned launch pad 39A for the space shuttle program.

Mayor's leadership and strategic Acunam propelled the electrical engineering company to unprecedented success, accumulating in its. Acquisition by NASDAQ list Corporation. With a proven track record of leadership and innovation, Bill continues to drive progress and excellence in the technology and healthcare sector, leaving a lasting imprint on industries that shape our [00:03:00] future.

Bill served in the U. S. Navy from 1971 to 1975, specializing in air launched weapons specialists

abroad, the U. S. S. Forrest, all CVA 59. Additionally, he holds a pilot's certificate bill. I am so happy to have you join me today.

Bill Maher: It's a pleasure. Thank you very much.

Leighann Lovely: Yeah. So obviously I read this, you know, little bio on you, but is there anything that I missed?

Bill Maher: Uh, no, no, just, uh, that's pretty much it in a nutshell.

Leighann Lovely: So why don't you tell, you know, currently you are the CEO of Curitiba Bay. Tell me a little bit about, you know, what this business is. What, what do, what do you do?

Bill Maher: Well, it was kind of a mistake. It was nothing I planned. Um, I had just, uh, came out of selling my company to a NASDAQ listed company. So it turned into a publicly [00:04:00] traded company. And, um, and I left that company after about a year and I was with a friend and he asked me, have I ever heard of something called hypochlorous acid?

And I said, no, never heard of it. And he said, well, there's a doctor down in Fort Lauderdale, which we're in Tampa Bay. He said, let's take a ride down. This is supposed to be pretty special and he wants us to help him sell it. So we went down there and when I, I never heard of hypochlorous, but when I found out that it, it kills all viruses, it, um, it's so safe that you can drink it.

It's made out of dead sea salt and purified water. And we put an electrical current through it and it brings out something called hypochlorous acid, which is in your, in the human immune system. If you didn't have it, you wouldn't heal wounds, wouldn't get rid of colds. It's pretty important for the human body.

Um, after a couple of hours, I was blown away by it. I was getting pretty excited. And then I found out that it was not stable, which means you cannot keep it in a bottle for longer than maybe 3 days. And it would it turns right back to [00:05:00] salt water again. So I didn't see any. Future in that, uh, the next day I was called to Seattle for, uh, for a consulting, an engineering consulting job.

And I thought, I'll take that, you know, nothing else to do. So I flew to Seattle the next day.

Leighann Lovely: Nothing else to do this. Sorry. I'm sorry. Nothing else to do. You're you just sold your company and you're you're how old at this point?

Bill Maher: Oh, when I sold the company, I was

Leighann Lovely: So you, you could have just, you know, gotten on your boat and, and retired at this point.

Bill Maher: Yeah. Well, you could have, but I started thinking the older you get, the more wisdom you have and you think in yourself, well, how many times can I go drinking beer on my boat? So this is,

Leighann Lovely: so I just want to point out, this is the true entrepreneurial spirit of someone who, Just loves what they do and does what they love.

So, sorry, go ahead. It was good.

Bill Maher: So I flew to [00:06:00] Seattle and we did the 1st full day and it's in his plant. And it's building and and then he's invited me out to dinner and he also brought a friend of his had nothing to do with our meeting. Just a friend was. Hanging out with him. So I asked the friend, you know, what do you do for a living?

And he said, well, you probably never heard of this, but we figured out a way to stabilize something called hypochlorous acid. And I almost fell off my chair and I thought, well, this is, this is a divine intervention or something, something, some, it just, the odds, I should have stopped in Las Vegas. On the way back, so I decided that I, I knew that the spray itself, I could say that it, it gets, it'll relieve people of acne in about four days.

You just spray it on your face. It's like, uh, salt water, but it's not gonna right. The hypochlorous in it, it clears up the acne real fast. Uh, it heals wounds really quick. So that was another application, um, and and also it kills all viruses, although we make no claims about that, you know, so, [00:07:00] um, it's I've never done this business before.

This is a. Online business, we have a little store here too, but. Uh, if I didn't have the experience of operating a business for 30 years, um, I probably would have gone out of business the 1st year. It was just a money hungry machine. And, uh, it was terrible. Uh, at 1st, you know, because I didn't have any marketing experience.

No social media experience. You know, I do. I did things like I answered the telephone and talk to people and they didn't even know how to do it. You know, they were ready to leave a message, you know, so it was hard. I think the first year, second year, we lost huge amounts of money. And now, now, and I, we were the first people in this space.

So nobody knew about it. Nobody understood what I did. I don't do it now sell on Amazon, but when I tried to sell on Amazon, it took them six months to approve it because they never heard of it before. Now there's now that now I came out [00:08:00] and didn't do any advertising. I just basically got the sales up and now there's probably about 15 competitors.

And they're in all the beauty stores and everywhere, you know, and I'm still just selling out of our office here,

Leighann Lovely: but

Bill Maher: we're doing quite well now and growing every day.

Leighann Lovely: Interesting.

Bill Maher: And then there was a little stint I did between the electrical engineering business and this business. Uh, I was in, we did a lot of work in Hong Kong and China and I found these little microscopic balls that they made out of bauxite ore in China.

They're the size of a pencil tip. But if you were to take a hammer and hit them, you couldn't hardly break them. They would hold 20, 000 PSI pounds per square inch. Right? So I thought my friend who was in the oil business, he was a petroleum engineer. I said, how do they open up the fractures when they fracture a well, because it's so deep and he says they use sand.

And I said, do you think we can get them to use these, these balls? And he said, well, let's because they're not, they're not [00:09:00] they're natural. Right. So we went to Halliburton and after about a year of begging, they finally gave us a chance and they improve their, their well, um, their, their production by 600 barrels a day.

So we, we started importing, we would bring 3000 pounds, super sacks, 10Million pounds at a time from China to, um, to, uh, the port city. And we ship it across the ocean to Seattle and put it on it. We rent a whole train and put it on a train. We're delivering 10 million pounds a month to Palo Verde and whiting oil and gas.

And that went on for got the 1st year. We did that. We did 32Million dollars in business, just 2 people. And it was a fun business, but boy, it was hard. We're in the oil fields at 40 below 0, you know, where you can pinch the cheeks and it would stay that way and stuff. And I'm for it. I'm a Florida guy. So.

Leighann Lovely: Right.

Bill Maher: Um, we had to, we had to give that up in 2014 because they had a manipulated oil price. Crude price went from [00:10:00] 95 a barrel down to 30 a barrel. And uh, we were the most expensive thing on the, on the well. Um, we were 600, 000 a well for products. So they went back to sand.

Leighann Lovely: So that's three businesses.

Yeah. So

Bill Maher: let's,

Leighann Lovely: let's go back. So you know, you, you were in, uh, you were in the Navy. Let's start with this. You got out of the Navy. And did you immediately have the itch to become an entrepreneur?

Bill Maher: No, I didn't know I was not educated. And you know, for me to start my electrical engineering business, I had to be, uh, I had to have a BS degree, put it that way.

And, uh, but you know, God has given me miracles all my life. And I was man, I was, my job was managing the construction of data centers. When data centers, the dotcoms are out a lot, you know, and, and, uh, [00:11:00] one of the guys I befriended took him fishing on my boat and everything like that, all the time. He came to me one day and he said, Hey, you know, I'm so mad at these electronic engineers because we have these big power systems and they, they won't touch the batteries.

I wish I knew somebody who could maintain the batteries. And I said, what would I, what would, what would you do? He said, well, I'd give him all my work. He, he's, uh, a manager of a $60 billion company. Um. And they do big power systems manufacturing. Right? So I went down at Reagan was president then, and I went down and started my business in about a day for 50.

It wasn't like it is now and opened up my shop. And he came in the next day with a stack about that, that high of folders. And he said, here's all of our customers. Leave us 15%. So I went out and started doing maintenance by myself on all these battery systems, right? Cause it wasn't that hard. And next thing you know, you know, I'm by myself.

And back in 1989, I was making 35, 000 a month.

Leighann Lovely: And [00:12:00]

Bill Maher: then we, we turned that into stationary power was the name of the company. And when we sold it, we were, we were revenuing 50 million. And it was so funny because when I started this business, I had a little baby, my daughter was a baby, you know, I was watching her and I was actually working in her bedroom.

So I would have these old phone where people would call and I say, oh, I don't know. Hold on a 2nd. Let me hook you over to engineering. And then I put it on hold and I come back, say engineering, you know, change my voice. I imagine many people could probably come up with what they did when they started their business, but stationary power was we were in 5 states, you know, and it was a great company.

Um, and it was purchased by a NASDAQ traded company, a public publicly traded company.

Leighann Lovely: Yeah. And

Bill Maher: they ran it out a bit. They ruined our, our culture, ruined the culture for the customers. NASA used to come to my office and change into shorts when they were discussing change orders for the space, the launch pad.

Right. And, and then, so they [00:13:00] went out of business in three years. Not that not the whole company, but they had to fold the division that when they bought our company,

Leighann Lovely: right?

Bill Maher: No, which wasn't cheap. And, uh, so that was unfortunate. But

Leighann Lovely: yeah, you can't, uh, you can't continue to maintain. Um, well, If you're, if you're not willing to understand the organization and the way that it was built when you buy it and you just go in and start strong, strong arming or not paying attention to the way that it was originally run, it's, it's unfortunate that that that happens with, with companies.

So how many

Bill Maher: college educated people. No, no offense to them. I'm not at all tend to be younger when they get into these positions and it takes wisdom,

Leighann Lovely: you

Bill Maher: have to have wisdom to think about what, do I want to change that culture to my culture, which is strictly wrong it's, you know, it's, it's. But in fact, when I mentioned that [00:14:00] to the board of directors and they called the president about it, he fired me.

Leighann Lovely: Wow.

Bill Maher: It's not a big deal. I didn't need to work there. I didn't do nothing when I sold it anyway, but you know, it's like, he didn't want me to go around. I've talked to him already. I said, you're going to run this company out of business. I said, it's three years. It's gone. And it was three years. Right.

Leighann Lovely: Wow.

And so let's talk about that because, you know, there's a lot of young entrepreneurs that are popping up and which is awesome. I love to see, um, you know, younger people coming in and, you know, really showing what they're capable of doing. I will tell you myself that when I was in my twenties, um, I didn't have the wisdom that I have now, and I, I wouldn't have been able to start and maintain and run my own business.

I know this of myself now. I'm not saying that that is that that's everybody. Um, [00:15:00] but there is something to be said about life experience. Um, that cannot be taught, that cannot be trained, that cannot be in any way given to somebody else without living and going through the motions of, of life.

Bill Maher: Yeah.

Leighann Lovely: So tell me a little bit about, you know, I guess that journey, the, the pains, the hardships of your previous, you know, business, your, your business today.

Bill Maher: Well, I mean, okay. So I made some mistakes that I learned from, and I would probably make the same choice if I, if I went back. So September 11th came. And we were, I had all my core group of people were working here and I had 5 other offices, but they were not my core. My core was here. They were all with me for 15 years.

I watched their kids grow up when [00:16:00] September 11th hit and the dot coms had a failures had failures. We were, we were shorted 800000 dollars on jobs. We did for the dot coms that we had to go through and all that kind of stuff like that. And so we got in a bad, bad way for a couple of years where it was extremely successful, extremely, uh, uh, stressful.

So, uh, I didn't want to lay off any of these people. And all my friends were saying, man, you're going, you know, you're having these problems and I went 2. 8 million into debt, uh, just keeping them employed. Cause I, I just knew that something was going to come right. And, uh, and we had to do a lot of things like they might not think about unless they had the experience.

For instance, after we fixed all that problem. And we're back after we, uh, we, we sold 1 division of the telecommunications division to, to a publicly traded company and got some cash was able to pay that debt off. But during that time, you know, we wanted to get another credit line. We needed a credit line to run the business.

Our cash flow was at that time with 800, 000 a month. [00:17:00]

Leighann Lovely: So,

Bill Maher: um, so what, uh, we had a guy, one of our best engineers bought so much of this equipment that was the wrong voltage. We couldn't return it.

Leighann Lovely: Oh my God. It was

Bill Maher: getting over in our other warehouse for a long, long time. And I thought, how am I going to get this credit line?

How am I going to get the credit line? You got to be patient, right? So I, I wrote off that inventory, which is if you're a publicly traded company, you just can't, if you write it off, you can, but you got to throw it away. We didn't throw it away. So the next year we were doing a lot better and we were, that voltage for that machine that we didn't need, now we needed it.

So we started selling these big jobs with these new 480 volt systems. And, um, we, uh, We were realizing a lot, a lot of a lot of revenue and no cost because we had no cost that was written off. Right. And that made our bottom line look really good. And we were able to secure a 5M credit line. [00:18:00] So, um, you know, it just took a lot of, you know, what you don't know how to solve the problem.

And 1st, you just have to go through it and you have to say, do I go this way? Do I go that way? And sometimes you're right and sometimes you're wrong, you know, you want to make that ratio a little bit better on the right side. Right. So that's what, you know, then we started getting, we were lean and mean, everybody was experienced.

We, we, we beat the, we beat a union up in Pennsylvania that was trying to knock us out of business. You know, that's a long story. It was Verizon, but, uh, we finally got to a point where we were doing really well, and we had a good name. A really good name. So,

Leighann Lovely: you

Bill Maher: know,

Leighann Lovely: I commend you, um, you know, businesses today and I, I don't, I don't want to pick on businesses today, but I'm going to.

I don't want to, but I'm going to. You know, businesses are not like they were there. There was [00:19:00] loyalty in employees and there was loyalty in businesses today. It is so not that way. There is no loyalty towards, you know, if. If an employee screws up, there's, there's, they're quick to get them out the door and just say goodbye.

Employees, the same thing. Employees are like, yeah, I don't like it here anymore. And they're just quick to jump ship. And, but you know, but you're talking about, I mean, 9 11, that was, you know, God, I, I, I'm dating myself when I say, you know, like I remember sitting at work the day that that happened, but that, that was so long ago at this point, like my, my, and it's really funny cause yesterday my husband made a comment about Janet Jackson in this incident that she was on stage and I'm like, Oh, that wasn't that long ago.

And he goes, yeah, it was.

Bill Maher: And

Leighann Lovely: I'm like, what? No, it wasn't. And he goes, we were watching a show and he goes, this kid just said he wasn't [00:20:00] born when that happens, when that happened. And I went, Oh, Oh my God. Like there's people out there who are old enough to be like adults and they weren't born when that happened.

I'm like, wow, I'm getting old. But anyways, I digress. I, you know, you don't realize like how long ago these things happen. And anyways, the point that I'm making is the loyalty that you showed. The, by, by keeping your employees employed and going into debt that much, that, that shows an amazing one culture, but wow, that, I mean, that's, that's a company that I would have wanted to work at.

And when you have a company that people want to work at, want to stay at, that's a company that I, as a consumer want to work with. [00:21:00] It, it, cause it, it go, it, it all trinkles down, right? Happy employees, happy culture usually means happy clients because they have a smile on their face when they're picking up the phone and working with their, their consumers, their clients.

They're so it sounds just from the way that you described that short thing, you did have an amazing culture and it's unfortunate when you turn around and sell that, that it's so quickly was squashed.

Bill Maher: Well, the culture, I mean. When you go to lay off people, you're not just laying off people and wrecking a family for a little while,

Leighann Lovely: you're laying

Bill Maher: capabilities.

And

when you lay off capabilities, your companies, that's what I think some people don't realize is you're laying off capabilities. You can't get them back. You know, you can't get the people that, you know, can lace cable and do all these specific jobs that we had. And, uh, and plus, you know, they, they were with me when they, they were, you know, got married.

They had kids. We saw him at the Christmas [00:22:00] party and that sort of thing. So you have to have the problem with today. What I see in running this business right here is that nobody talks to each other anymore. Nobody communicates if they don't want to talk to you. They just don't call you. They don't answer the phone.

And, um, that's 1 of the reasons it's my company. I said, the only job I had at the end was I sat in my office. I got the service reports from the service text that went out to all my customers. And I called every single 1 of them every month, every 3, every 90 days. And we had conversations, friendly conversations, so I could keep figuring out if they were okay with what we were doing.

Um, and I remember the customers calling me and, you know, giving us jobs that we didn't think we were going to get. You know, the, the communication was great in this business. Uh, today you can't, everybody has to do everything electronically. They hide behind it, you know, and we answered our phone here at this company every day.

I do every day for every customer. We take care of problems just like that, you know, and you can see it in our reviews. [00:23:00]

Leighann Lovely: And that makes all of the difference, the, the. And you're right, people do hide behind, and it, and it makes it easier for people to brush things, conflict, brush it away as if it doesn't exist when you're hiding behind, you know, you and I are talking in Zoom.

It's, it's much easier for me. It's not for me, but much easier for people to be like, uh, I, I'm not thinking of that person as a real person with real emotions, with real family issues, with real, when you and I have never actually met in person,

Bill Maher: you

Leighann Lovely: know, because you're not, it's easier for somebody to think that they're not a whole person when I'm only seeing you in a box.

Bill Maher: And,

Leighann Lovely: and again, that's, you know, with the whole pandemic businesses saying, we want you back in the office. We want the human contact and, and [00:24:00] the younger generation is arguing what we do. We, we talk this way. We talk on tax. We talk, it's not the same.

Bill Maher: Not

Leighann Lovely: that I'm arguing that every job has to be done in an office, but relationships are struggling because of that human interaction that not zoom human interaction, not phone human, talking about actual in person interaction.

There's something to be said from standing next to somebody and being able to see their facial expressions, their body reaction. If I step closer, do they move away? Like, are they, are they the kind of person that doesn't like to be in close proximity? That says a lot about a personality and to get to know that personality, it really, truly does.

The

Bill Maher: human touch, we call it. You know, you need to have the human touch and, and, you know, it's, it seems like society at some point is going to spiral out of control because, uh, because of it, [00:25:00] you know, we're getting too much technology, um, and not enough, um, talking to each other.

Leighann Lovely: Yeah, I am in a, in a pool league and there is, um, 1, 1 gentleman who's 21 and 1 gentleman who's 25 and I find it, they always have earbuds in.

Yeah. Yet when I approach them and I say something to them, they respond right back. And so one day I said to them, what's with the earbuds? Because you can hear me. You talk to me. If I talk to you, you respond, but you always have them in. And so. One of them said, well, I'm listening to music, but really low.

So I can still hear. And I said, well, there's music in here. And he goes, yeah, it's not my type of music.

I'm like, like, so this is, this is the younger generation coming up is that they walk around with their own personal music in their head it's low enough. So they can still [00:26:00] talk. So they're like. They want to be out in society, but they also are like in their own heads. It's it is a bizarre and I don't think of myself as old.

Like, I'm, I'm 43 years old. I, I feel like I'm still in touch,

Bill Maher: but

Leighann Lovely: clearly I'm not

Bill Maher: happy to be how old I am.

I've, I've been through the best of time. So. You know, uh, it was, it was actually really good up until about 4 years ago. You know, that then people started getting. You know, we're being pushed apart, uh, in certain ways that we all know, and, and against each other, one's against this one, this one's against that one, and people have no problem saying the nastiest things when all they're doing is typing it out and they don't have to see you.

Leighann Lovely: Correct.

Bill Maher: And that that's turning the society into kind of mean streak, you know, and

Leighann Lovely: I [00:27:00] guarantee that if you were to, you know, especially when it comes to politics, especially, and I'm not going to get into any, trust me, I'm not going to start, I guarantee that if all of a sudden you took like, and some of these strings where it degrades into these horrible, if you were to say to all these people, Hey, Hey, I'm going to take you into a room with all of these people that you have screamed at, yelled at, called names, and you have to stand in a room and face them.

They'd be like, no, no, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm not, I'm no, I'm not. But you're more than willing to say these horrible, nasty things, name, call them, tell them how stupid they are for their own personal beliefs online.

Bill Maher: Yeah. I think, I think it's going to, a lot's going to change, uh, in the next. Four or five years for the better.

Leighann Lovely: I hope a

Bill Maher: lot of people are realizing, you know, when they see this, that, you know, we're going in the wrong direction, but [00:28:00] we'll see, you know,

Leighann Lovely: yeah. So we're, we're getting off topic here. Let's get, let's, I'm going to revert back here. So, so you, you've obviously, you owned a wildly successful business for many years.

And so now you, you've. We're gonna bring this back to current. You had dinner, you know, with a friend that now has sparked this. Oh my gosh, I can stabilize this. Hypochlorous Chlor. Yeah. Yeah. Hypochlorous acid. So you then went back down the path of I'm gonna create this business. At that time, you were the only one in the market.

You now have competitors. So let's talk a little bit more about where you are currently with, you know, your product and you know, what, what, what sparked this. New [00:29:00] entrepreneurs, you know, ship journey and, you know, yeah, let's talk a little bit more about that

Bill Maher: 7 days a week. Um, you know, I'm, I'm not living the perfect life right now.

It's, it's been a difficult track, uh, going way out of my comfort zone. We did. We have moved probably in the last 5 years, about 80, 000 bottles of the product. It looks, looks like this and, uh, we have, uh, we do no advertising. We do no social media.

Leighann Lovely: We

Bill Maher: might, we might, I think we found somebody though, it's going to help us with that.

But all we want is word of mouth. It's it. We have 4700. Uh, roughly 4, 700 customers that we, that we know of their subscribers. Right. Um, we probably needed 20, 000 to, to, to have a, you know, and we're, we're moving toward it, it's, uh, people are starting to realize what this product is. And, and I, one of the things that used to scare me is, uh, and, or hurt my feeling, I was expecting somebody to say, oh, [00:30:00] that stuff's no good or whatever, whatever, but we have five star, a hundred percent, five star ratings about the quality of the product and what it does, people write like stories in the, in the reviews about.

You know, got rid of my acne, I had a stye in my eye, I sprayed it and it was gone the next day. Um, it's anti aging, it's um, yeah, it's a fantastic product, so if it wasn't so good, I would have quit it five years ago. But I, people, what happened to me, what happened to me, I can tell you a little bit about what happened to me when COVID came out.

There's 50 years of science behind this product. It dates back to the 1800s. A scientist couldn't figure out how do we heal ourselves inside? How do we heal our burns, cuts? How do we get rid of the cold? How does it go away? What is it? And they found that the electricity and the salt and water in your body combine to make hypochlorous.

So he would, he's, he, the scientist, I can't remember what his name is, but he was a French scientist. He [00:31:00] used electricity and water and salt to make it. So it's been around for a long time. Um, I, uh, you know, looking back about the, um, uh, about what what happened to me with the FDA is terrible because I didn't know anything about the FDA rules and regulations.

And I knew looking at the government National Institute of Health studies over the last 50 years proved that this stuff is absolutely off the charts, right? So when COVID first came out, somebody must've known in Tampa at the news station and said, Hey, hypochlorous, we got to find somebody who's make this hypochlorous.

That's all I can't figure out any other way. They called me one day and they said, you, you manufacture hypochlorous. And I said, yes, they said, well, we'd like to interview you. And I said, okay, but I can't make any claims. So don't ask me anything about claims. And so, and they said, okay, so I came over, it was a great interview.

After the interview, we were selling like products were going out. The door is [00:32:00] incredible. All local, right. Well, when they did the interview and I looked at it, they, they, uh, put a guy in there from the University of South Florida, who's a doctor. They edited him, his interview in with mine, and they asked him about hypochlorous.

And he said, Oh, it kills COVID, kills all the viruses, blah, blah, blah. And then the FDA came after a little old me. You know, in a little office, it was this big, you know, and, and, uh, they, they, I said, well, can I, uh, I'll stop. I won't make any claims, but can I get this tested? It's already been tested, but can I test it myself and get Google during this pandemic?

Because it could really help you out a lot. And they said, don't waste your time. We'll never approve this. Right. So, um, and then what they did was they put a warning. If you go on Google to search for my company, you'll see the, you know, the company here. If you scroll to the bottom, it's an FDA warning that will never come off.

And that's, that's what ruined the company. Basically, it hurt the company bad or bad, and they'll never take it off

Leighann Lovely: an FDA [00:33:00] warning saying what

Bill Maher: we made fraudulent claims about, about type of chorus and COVID. We didn't make any claims.

Leighann Lovely: You didn't right. I was to say you didn't make any claims. That was

Bill Maher: a desperately did not want this out because with a with a nasal passage cleanser, uh, and a skin spray.

Um, well, I don't have to tell you, you can make a guess what that was. It is. It is so safe. That if you, it's just water, salt water. Basically, if you spray it, you can spray it in your mouth

Leighann Lovely: in

Bill Maher: your eyes. You can put it anywhere you want. It's, it's organic. It's natural. Right? So it's nothing going to hurt you, but it's been proven to be 80 times the virus killing power of bleach.

Leighann Lovely: And yet it is a hundred percent natural. So you don't have to deal with the fumes of bleach. You don't have to deal with the chemicals. You don't have to deal with the, all of the things that come along with using a harsh product. Alcohol or, or some of the,

Bill Maher: they use in [00:34:00] restaurants, uh, they use, uh, you know, the, uh, the, um, a lot of bad chemicals and the stuff they use restaurants to clean tables and things like that.

So, so people are starting to understand it now. And we're in the word of mouth is going from, I mean, word of mouth is incredible. It's not.

Leighann Lovely: And this is where it, where, where our world is, is broken and government can come in and basically say, don't believe them. And everybody goes, well, if the government saying it, right.

So you, what is your future look like? And you know, that was kind of your 32nd pitch as far as the product, um, cause we are coming to time, but I want to give you the opportunity to also tell me, what is your future look like in this? Thanks.

Bill Maher: Well, uh, you know, I'm, I'd like to find at some point, I'd like to, to, you know, sell, sell the company when I retire, go do things I want to do for a change without having this on my, a lot of stuff like this on my back, um, or, or attract a [00:35:00] partner that might want to invest and be a marketing person that would might, might want to invest so that we can grow that part of the company to get to where the EBITDA is enough to get a good price for the company.

Um, but I'll stay here as long as I have to. You know, I'm going to, I've already committed myself to two more years, so I don't want to go too much further than 72 years old when I, you know, with doing this kind of stuff.

Leighann Lovely: Well, you, it's, you have built an amazing one. Sounds like an amazing product. Um, where can somebody reach out to you to one, check out your product, purchase your product, learn more about it, and you know, how would they go about doing that?

Bill Maher: Well, our, our website is curative obey. It's C. U. R. A. T. I. V. A. B. A. Y. curative obey dot com. And, um, you can get us, you can reach us on email at [00:36:00] info at curative obey dot com. And if you really want to get ahold of me, I answer the phone at 7 to 7, 7, 4 to 6, 6, 3, 6. So, that's.

Leighann Lovely: And that information will be in the show notes.

So if you are looking to reach out to learn more about, um, you know, bill, you're looking to reach out to learn more about curative obey. Um, definitely go ahead, check out the show notes. You'll be able to find that information there, but bill, um, you know, your journey has definitely been one that is amazing.

Um, and I really appreciate you coming on and talking with me today.

Bill Maher: Okay. Well, I appreciate the time.