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JP: Welcome to Iteration, a podcast about programming, development, and design.

  • JP Intro — Hi, I'm JP and I am a software engineer at an analytics startup. Today, I am joined by John:
  • John Intro — My name is John and I am a software developer based in Los Angeles CA

Today's topic

The "Codeless" movement, otherwise known as "Low Code / No Code"

Said another way: Is Bubble and GPT-3 coming to take all of our jobs?

We aren't talking about "Serverless" (Ex: Firebase / Aws Amplify / Parse) — Could be a good future episode.

NOT tools like Auth0 or Twillio

This is a "Full Stack" — No code app development framework in the cloud.

WYSIWYG for "Apps"

This isn't software!

Popular Codeless tools

Full "App" Development

Internal Tool replacements — Kind of mini-modern salesforce or filemaker clones

Domain Specific Codeless

Upsides of Low Code

  • Low Code / No Code is an incredible tool for going from 0-1.
  • All Notes

Downsides of Low Code

  • Low Code / No Code is most ideal for basic CRUD or internal simpler tools. Reading, updating and managing listings of data. Or — Very Domain specific (Shopify for eCommerce)
  • It can be very hard to maintain, since you don't "own" your stack.
  • Very very expensive to scale (Still cheaper than a team of Devs)
  • Tons and tons of gotchas

John's Opinion:

  • Prototype + Build V1 of everything you can with no-code or off the shelf systems. Get things in customers hands.

Biggest Issue — Low Code doesn't fix the Hard Part of Software

  • Notes

Other thoughts regarding of Low code

  • Non tech sees code as "Barrier" not "Force Multiplier"
  • Often times the time saved is actually due to the compromises made with a low-code / no code tool.
    • Examples of compromises include:

Recommendations for Using Low Code Tools

  • Accept the limitations
    • Spending too much time trying to solve for nit-picky edge-cases is likely to be a time suck here. Low-code / no-code will likely have rough edges and performance issues. Just embrace the hackyness.
  • Don't ignore best practices of user interviews, research and domain design.
    • Just because your not "coding" doesn't mean you shouldn't do your homework and have confidence before building. It's very easy to waste time building the wrong thing.
  • Think about the data and lock in
    • Where does data live? Is it secure? is it backed up? Is it in a silo? Can it be migrated / exported?

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iteration podcast, John Jacob, and JP Sio - Web Developers द्वारा प्रदान की गई सामग्री. एपिसोड, ग्राफिक्स और पॉडकास्ट विवरण सहित सभी पॉडकास्ट सामग्री iteration podcast, John Jacob, and JP Sio - Web Developers या उनके पॉडकास्ट प्लेटफ़ॉर्म पार्टनर द्वारा सीधे अपलोड और प्रदान की जाती है। यदि आपको लगता है कि कोई आपकी अनुमति के बिना आपके कॉपीराइट किए गए कार्य का उपयोग कर रहा है, तो आप यहां बताई गई प्रक्रिया का पालन कर सकते हैं https://hi.player.fm/legal

JP: Welcome to Iteration, a podcast about programming, development, and design.

  • JP Intro — Hi, I'm JP and I am a software engineer at an analytics startup. Today, I am joined by John:
  • John Intro — My name is John and I am a software developer based in Los Angeles CA

Today's topic

The "Codeless" movement, otherwise known as "Low Code / No Code"

Said another way: Is Bubble and GPT-3 coming to take all of our jobs?

We aren't talking about "Serverless" (Ex: Firebase / Aws Amplify / Parse) — Could be a good future episode.

NOT tools like Auth0 or Twillio

This is a "Full Stack" — No code app development framework in the cloud.

WYSIWYG for "Apps"

This isn't software!

Popular Codeless tools

Full "App" Development

Internal Tool replacements — Kind of mini-modern salesforce or filemaker clones

Domain Specific Codeless

Upsides of Low Code

  • Low Code / No Code is an incredible tool for going from 0-1.
  • All Notes

Downsides of Low Code

  • Low Code / No Code is most ideal for basic CRUD or internal simpler tools. Reading, updating and managing listings of data. Or — Very Domain specific (Shopify for eCommerce)
  • It can be very hard to maintain, since you don't "own" your stack.
  • Very very expensive to scale (Still cheaper than a team of Devs)
  • Tons and tons of gotchas

John's Opinion:

  • Prototype + Build V1 of everything you can with no-code or off the shelf systems. Get things in customers hands.

Biggest Issue — Low Code doesn't fix the Hard Part of Software

  • Notes

Other thoughts regarding of Low code

  • Non tech sees code as "Barrier" not "Force Multiplier"
  • Often times the time saved is actually due to the compromises made with a low-code / no code tool.
    • Examples of compromises include:

Recommendations for Using Low Code Tools

  • Accept the limitations
    • Spending too much time trying to solve for nit-picky edge-cases is likely to be a time suck here. Low-code / no-code will likely have rough edges and performance issues. Just embrace the hackyness.
  • Don't ignore best practices of user interviews, research and domain design.
    • Just because your not "coding" doesn't mean you shouldn't do your homework and have confidence before building. It's very easy to waste time building the wrong thing.
  • Think about the data and lock in
    • Where does data live? Is it secure? is it backed up? Is it in a silo? Can it be migrated / exported?

Popular Codeless Resources

Good Articles / Podcasts on Low code / no code

Picks

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