Here at Start and Scale, we believe in a simple no-nonsense approach to building and growing a thriving online business that provides the life they've always dreamt of. Follow along as Chase unwraps his decade of entrepreneurial experience to help you start and scale your online coaching business.
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Semi regular rants and knowledge bombs from head coach Chase Tolleson.
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The Evolving Potential Podcast is for people who are hungry for growth, striving for excellence, and committed to reaching their highest potential. Each week we will interview an expert, professional athlete, renowned coach, entrepreneur, or thought leader to discuss human potential. Guests are or are working with high performers and are able to share their habits, practices, and mindset for personal development and performance enhancement. The host, Todd Smith, is a former fat kid turned pe ...
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Stop Gaslighting Yourself Into Failure: Realize Your Potential By Escaping the Mindset Trap
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Do you find yourself dismissing crucial business tasks as inauthentic or salesy, only to realize you're stuck in the same place? Discover how many online coaches, myself included, inadvertently gaslight ourselves into failure by avoiding essential sales and marketing tasks. In this episode, I share personal stories and actionable insights into over…
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The Power of Words: Master Storytelling & Marketing w/Chase Tolleson
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Chase Tolleson served in the Navy for four years, owned his own gym for 8 years, and was a successful personal trainer both online and in-person. He also started his own brand, The Primal Man Pathway, and scaled his business. This led him to mentoring other entrepreneurs on how to authentically show up online and market to their ideal audience. His…
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Break Through Barriers: How Wilton Atkins Built a Business on Mental Coaching
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Wilton Atkins is a mental performance coach who has worked with professional sport teams, Olympians, and businesses to help them expand their potential. He has over 20 years of experience coaching from where he grew up in New Zealand to Arizona, New Mexico, and now internationally via remote work. This has allowed Wilton the freedom to travel and m…
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Integration and Alignment: A Conversation with Cleburn Walker
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Cleburn Walker served in the Marines before pursuing a career in MMA, which included a shot on season 11 of The Ultimate Fighter. Today, he is an author with an extensive background in sales, from cars to real estate, raises his 5 children, and assists those who seek it as an integration and alignment guide. His passions include life's greatest mys…
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Building Unbreakable Mental Strength: Lessons from a Marine-Turned-Coach
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Clint Laukhuf spent nearly a decade in Marine Recon before transitioning to the world of tennis coaching where he found himself compelled to focus on mental strength or resilience. He played tennis in college while obtaining a bachelor's degree in psychology and a master's degree in organizational leadership. Clint has also written a book titled, "…
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Unlocking Your Potential: Timi Gleason's Guide to Self-Discovery
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Timi Gleason has an extensive background in Human Resources and has worked as a Corporate Director, Consultant, and Leadership Coach to help influence and/or transform organizations. She has worked with a Fortune 200 company and specializes in helping leaders developed their leadership styles, strategic thinking, and communication. Her certificatio…
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Psychedelics for Veterans: Shrooms With Attitude. Chad McLean of Mental Joe Apparel
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Entrepreneurs, take note: Chad’s journey is a masterclass in resilience, authenticity, and the gritty reality of starting a purpose-driven business. From overcoming financial hurdles to shifting from a money-centric life to one of service and fulfillment, this episode offers valuable insights on personal growth and evolution. Explore how psychedeli…
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Dr. Robyn Odegaard Reveals the Secret Struggles of High Achievers
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Dr. Robyn Odegaard has done a TEDx Talk titled, "Creating Success Out of Chaos," written 3 books, and completed her bachelor's, master's, and PhD in Organizational Psychology with an emphasis in Sports and Performance in 6 1/2 years. Her work has granted her the title of the Mental MacGyver. She is a former competitive beach volleyball player who b…
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Lessons from Closing a Successful Gym and Embracing Authenticity
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Join us as Joel Cochran takes the reins to interview our usual host, Chase Tolleson. The journey of entrepreneurship is rarely a straight path. Chase opens up about the bittersweet decision to close a profitable brick-and-mortar gym after nearly eight rewarding years. Learn about the critical lessons he learned about building and trusting a team, m…
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Debunking the Law of Attraction: Hard Work vs. Instant Gratification with David Essel
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David Essel is an international speaker featured on Fox, NBC, ABC, Good Morning Arizona, and more. He has a master's degree in sports psychology and has worked as a sports psychology consultant, master life coach, counselor, ordained all faiths minister, and is #1 best-selling author of more than 13 books. David has hosted and been featured in many…
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Iterations: Business and Life Shifts as Seasons Turn, with Joel Cochran
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Welcome to an eye-opening conversation with Joel, where we promise you'll discover the essence of navigating through seasons of business transitions. From running a gym to thriving in online coaching and business acquisition, Joel shares how pivotal mindset shifts, holistic certifications, and the power of compounded interest can drive personal and…
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Unlocking Alignment & Authenticity with Wilson Meloncelli
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Wilson Meloncelli is a former stunt performer and British MMA champion from Scotland living in Greece who has a black belt in Jiu Jitsu. He is currently a flow state performance coach and the CEO of Mavericks Consulting where he works with Fortune 500 companies, musicians, entrepreneurs, and world class athletes to find alignment in their life that…
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I'm baaack! - From Gym Owner to Business Mentor: My Transformative Journey to Empowering Coaches and Entrepreneurs
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Have you ever wondered what it takes to transition from the world of fitness coaching to becoming a successful business mentor? Join me as I share my personal journey through a transformative hiatus that led me to discover a whole new passion. Initially hesitant to embrace the title of "business coach," I soon recognized that my years of experience…
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Imposter Syndrome: The Story You Tell Yourself ft. Mark England
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Mark England has a degree in International Education and was formerly an elementary school PE teacher at an International School. He did this while chasing his dreams of becoming a pro fighter in Thailand, where he moved to study Muy Thai. After facing a serious knee injury and multiple surgeries Mark developed a serious victim mentality that he wa…
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From Athlete to Mental Coach: How Coaching Transforms Olympic Performers
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Megan Henry is a former Olympic level athlete in the sport of skeleton, which is a sport similar to bobsledding or luge but done face first at speeds close to 90 mph. She is an adventure junkie who loved to compete but ultimately has transitioned into the field of mental performance coaching due to her amazing and extensive experience utilizing coa…
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Can Neuroscience Unlock New Mental Health Treatments? | Toby Pasman Explains"
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Toby Pasman is a board-certified neurophysiologist and applied neuroscientist. He has a master's degree in psychology and is certified as a human potential coach. He works primarily with executives, entrepreneurs and high performers bridging together nutrition, neuroscience, psychology, physiology, and psychedelics. He utilizes various Neurotechnol…
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From Marine to Mind Master: Dr. Bob Choat on Integration and Potential
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Dr. Bob Choat is currently an executive and peak performance coach who grew up labeled as a moron, clinically, due to a currently outdated label for a low IQ test at young age. He developed his body through years of various martials and his mind through his insatiable curiosity and study. He served in the Marine Corps and was later recognized by ME…
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Beast Thinking: How Top Athletes Use Cognitive Training to Dominate the Field
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Tuck Taylor is the CEO and head mental performance coach for Neuro Beast, a training facility and program. His work attracts NBA, MLB, and NFL athletes and is designed to improve sport specific cognitive functions like attention, reaction time, memory, inhibition, and cognitive flexibility as well as combat the negative effects of mental fatigue an…
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5 Keys to UNSHAKEABLE Self-Confidence: Overcoming Adversity w/Mental Performance Coach Charlie Smith
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Charlie Smith is a mental performance coach and personal trainer for the mind. His clients are high-level executives, athletes, and young professionals as well as sports teams and organizations through his speeches, workshops, and seminars. As a former addict, Charlie has overcome intense adversity and worked in high stakes positions as a real esta…
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John Peralta: Embracing Plant Medicine, Adventure, and the Universe's Design
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John Peralta is a former personal trainer, movement, and performance coach, massage therapist, and host of Flow Labs where he has taught people to discover their own triggers into flow states. He goes between Colorado and Costa Rica cultivating a life in flow where he does plant medicine and retreats with his partner Kat along with mountain biking,…
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The Winner's Mindset: The Unfiltered Truth on Mental Strength with David Niethe
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David Niethe is a mental performance coach and public speaker out of New Zealand who helped UFC Fighter Israel Adesanya go from doubt to dominance with his no bullshit approach to mental mastery. He has helped countless national and world champions get out of their own way to unlock elite performance. We discuss his history in powerlifting and stro…
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Beyond the Game: Mental Strategies from EXOS Coach James Leath
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James Leath began his mental performance career in a leadership position at IMG Academy in Florida, worked with the Chicago Bulls G League team, and eventually made his way to EXOS Gym in Phoenix, Arizona. We talk about his transition from personal trainer to mental performance coach, his experience at high-performance facilities, being intentional…
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The Evolving Potential Podcast Trailer
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It is with great pleasure that I bring you my passion project, The Evolving Potential Podcast. On this show, we will interview people who are also passionate about human potential. You can expect experts, top athletes, successful entrepreneurs, renowned coaches, and thought leaders to all share their habits, practices, and mindsets that allow them …
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"Abracadabra" by Chasocrates (Brave Bear Remix)
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Join us for a very special edition of a Chasocrates original piece "Abracadabra", reimagined with heavy battle drums and eerie wood flute. Get my content sales system that reliably makes $20k a month for coaches across all nichesद्वारा Chase Tolleson
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Get More Energy and Protect Your Brain: Drink "Update"
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Discover the untapped potential of paraxanthine, as Daniel Solomons and Shawn Wells of Update Energy Drink join us to reveal how this caffeine metabolite is revolutionizing the energy drink industry. Feeling invigorated throughout the day and still achieving restful sleep at night might sound like a fantasy, and the gentlemen stop by today to tell …
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Simplicity Unveiled: The Joy of Self-Discovery and the Myth of Modern Success with Steve Smaridge
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Ever found yourself going to comedic lengths to snap out of a bad habit? Well, here's a tale for you: our guest Steve Smaridge once gave his PlayStation a farewell swing with a baseball bat, all in the name of breaking free from its digital clutches. We sit down with Steve to lay out all the beauty in simplicity. Learn how to ... Stop flipping thro…
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The Quest for True Health: Uncovering Root Causes and Embracing Emotional Well-being with Dr. Bradley Campbell
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On today's show, we chat with Dr. Bradley Campbell and tackle the all-important quest for true health. As we sit down with this seasoned clinician, we unravel the dangers of quick-fix solutions and the vital need to excavate the root causes of our ailments. Tune in to learn all about: Dr. Campbell's expertise on how educating patients takes precede…
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Becoming A Next Level Man with Ryan Walla
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Peeling back the layers of life's complex tapestry, I sit with Ryan Walla. We uncover the healing wrapped within our wounds. Right off the top, Ryan's candid family anecdotes, serve up a poignant reminder to treasure the present. Our conversation stitches together the essence of personal growth - awareness, breath and connection. Ryan has coined th…
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Embracing Discipline and Weathering The Storm with Fox 46 Charlotte's, Ted Phaeton
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Remember the days when 'last call' meant the night was just getting started? Our guest, Fox 46 Charlotte meteorologist, Ted Phaeton ensures us that that storm has passed. He knows the weather can change, it's unpredictable at times and the underlying message of today's show is that so is life. This episode is packed with useful strategies you can u…
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Unveiling Authenticity: Marshal Gillen on Transformative Growth and Primal Wisdom
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Today, we embark on a quest for authenticity and peel back the layers of life's excess with Marshal Gillen, a man whose journey into primal connection and intentional living will move you. As he shares his experiences with psychedelics that sparked his personal transformation, we'll explore the very edges of human growth, and confront the shadow of…
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The Art of Mindful Living: Unveiling Authenticity and the Power of Surrender with Pat Smith
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Imagine peeling away the layers of noise that shroud our daily lives and discovering a clearer, more abundant existence. That's where we went in today's show with wellness expert Pat Smith, where we delve into the riches that mindful living and authentic action can bring. Together, we uncover the pivotal role authenticity plays in both personal dev…
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Today, we get to address the complex notion of freedom across its multifaceted spectrum. Drawing from my background in military discipline and entrepreneurial spirit, I'll guide you through the five pivotal levers of freedom: physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, and financial. We'll explore the foundations laid by physical autonomy, the clarity …
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Reawakening Vitality with Todd Squires
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Have you ever found yourself in a slump, energy sapped and searching for a way to reclaim your zest for life? Our guest, Todd Squires certainly has, and on today's show, we walk you through his reawakening of energy in all aspects of his life. Todd also delves into the art of asking pivotal questions, to foster our personal development and also as …
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From Financial Chains to Enlightened Abundance: Shawn Rivers' Leap into Meaningful Living
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When Shawn Rivers began his transformational journey from prioritizing financial gain to pursuing a life of deeper meaning, he didn't realize the profound impact it would have on his inner and outer world. Today's conversation reveals that true growth involves celebrating our achievements and acknowledging the formidable path that lies ahead. Shawn…
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“The Dad Edge:” Merging Love, Growth, and Accountability with Larry Hagner
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What happens when intentional up-skilling meets the intricacies of marriage and fatherhood? The blueprint for a fulfilling family life emerges. Join us as our guest, Larry Hagner from the Dad Edge Alliance brings the heat to the conversation as we chat all things modern parenting and partnership. In today's show: we peel back the layers on love lan…
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Midlife Crises To Midlife Renaissance: Rob Pengelly's Journey to Sobriety and Self-Revival
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When life hands you an ultimatum, it often requires a monumental shift to break free from its grip. Today, our guest, Rob Pengelly exemplifies this transformation, sharing his journey from the depths of alcohol addiction to a life blossoming with purpose and self-awareness. Now standing 541 days sober, Rob's evolution is a personal triumph and a be…
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Right at the top of the pyramid is movement, and that is our fourth and final Pillar in The Way of The Primal Man. Get ready to redefine your fitness routine as we answer these three questions on today's show: What is Primal Movement? How you can apply Primal Movement to your everyday life and attain long-term vitality. Why showing up for yourself …
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Join the revolution of rethinking your fuel, both on the plate and in life. Today we dissect the importance of mindful eating habits that turbocharge your health and elevate your everyday activity. Enter, Primal Fuel. Listen in as I cover: The secret to turning every meal into an opportunity for physical and mental rejuvenation The importance of fo…
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Sleep is king. Today we explore the profound impact of sleep on our lives. In this intimate reflection, I share how my struggle with disrupted sleep patterns led me down a path of discovery about the human body's primal rhythms. On today's show, prepare to be guided through a discussion on the hazards of artificial light and constant digital immers…
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When Joel Cochran posed a question on his podcast that struck a chord deep within me, one that many men silently grapple with— "What's the real hell you solve, Chase?" It's the gap between the success that the world sees and the soulful identity that lies beneath. As we peel back the layers of Primal Beliefs and uncover what it truly means to live …
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Season 2 | Redefining the Way of The Primal Man: Unveiling the Primal Pillars
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We're back, and season two brings with it a little facelift. We are doubling down on the value and these first five episodes are going to give you a glimpse of the pointed direction we're going. From a name change of the show to revisiting the core values, the essence of why I do what I do, The Way of The Primal Man is upon us. This season, tap int…
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Unearthing Wellness: A Deep Dive into Grounding and its Health Benefits with Earth Papi, PMP 110
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Ever wondered how reconnecting with the earth could lead to a better you? Inviting you to join us on an intriguing journey, together with our guest, Rob Aka The Grounded Athlete/Earth Papi, as we unravel the hidden benefits of grounding and its crucial role in nurturing our innate athleticism. From initially being a skeptic, Earth Papi is now an ar…
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Facing Your Demons and Living a Powerful Life: Journey with Sergio Nazzaro, PMP 109
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Dare to face your demons, confront your fears, and challenge societal norms? Then buckle up as my guest, Sergio Nazzaro, and I take you on a wild ride of self-reflection in the latest podcast. Life is a game filled with distractions and many can get lost along the way. We're going to help you stay between the ditches and even better, we'll show you…
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Embracing the Digital Vortex: A Deep Dive into Intuition, Society, and Human Connection" with Leah Jackman, PMP 108
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Are you feeling the seismic shift in society as it advances towards an increasingly digital world? Do you, too, find yourself at the crossroads of embracing your primal instincts and succumbing to the digital vortex? In our conversation with the insightful Leah Jackman, we grapple with this glaring division, discussing the pivotal role of choices i…
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Storytelling as a Catalyst For Change: A Conversation with Kyle Gray, PMP 107
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Have you ever considered how beneficial it'd be for you to become a great storyteller? This might sound ridiculous, and our guest, Kyle Gray, makes the case. Listen to his moving story about overcoming an autoimmune condition, and how this experience shaped his life and career. Kyle's journey is not just a tale of personal triumph; it's an elucidat…
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"Using Plant Medicine and Ancient Teachings to Solve The Great Mystery" with Hamilton Souther, PMP 106
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"If the traditions solved the Great Mystery and wonderment and unconsciousness we would have already have the answers." - Hamilton Souther, Blue Morpho AcademyToday's guest is an absolute legend in the plant medicine world. He's what we would call a Modern Shaman, however, "modern" is inaccurate, what we're living right now could be more accurately…
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"Set The Tone and Lead By Example" with James Moore, PMP 105
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How do you show up for your family? How do you want to be remembered? Today's guest, James Moore has an empowering message to all of us echoing the infamous quote from Gandhi: "Be the change you want to see in the world." After overcoming a herniated disc re-injury, Moore made a commitment to prioritize health and wellness. When he left the Kentuck…
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"You're Not The Man Your Grandfather Was" with Josh Whalen, PMP 104
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.... And he probably had way better sex than you do too. According to Josh Whalen Husband, Father and Founder of Get Blokes, testosterone levels have been steadily declining for the past three decades - nearly 10%. That is concerning and today, we discuss what Josh has been doing since the inception of Get Blokes, the "Trailblazing Leader in Health…
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"What are your rates?" really means "How big is your ***?", with Sarah Tolleson, PMP 103
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Guys, have you ever had a woman walk up to you and ask you what your rates were? 😜 What does that even mean? Our guest today will help you decipher that woman coding... That's right, the Queen is back. Sarah returns for another candid conversation that touches on everything from her and Chase's early romance to their reflections on how much more in…
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The Pain Stops When The Truth Starts with Jake Kauffman, PMP 102
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What if our highest sense of self came from authenticity? It's well-known that nowadays many men carry around shame and hurt, anguish and pain. Truth is, the healing process is the only way we can get resolve from that pain. Our guest today is Jake Kauffman, author of "Let Love in: The Pain Stops When The Truth Starts" and he dives into how the tra…
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