Cyber Grimes. Ranking Authentication Solutions. Roger Grimes, Defense Evangelist, KnowBe4.

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Roger Grimes is an industry expert and the Data Driven Defense Evangelist for KnowBe4. In this episode, Roger and host Hillarie McClure discuss various authentication solutions and what inspired Roger to rank them across a spectrum from weakest to strongest, as well as payment apps and why banks are refusing to pay back customers who have been scammed via Zelle. KnowBe4 is the world’s first and largest New-school security awareness training and simulated phishing provider that helps you manage the ongoing problem of social engineering. To learn more about our sponsor, KnowBe4, visit

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