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The Standards Show

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The Standards Show - the podcast that brings you the stories behind the standards. Join Matthew Chiles and Cindy Parokkil - and their guests along the way - for conversations on the concepts, history, people, and organizations involved in standards. And how they shape and improve the world around us, making life easier, safer, and more enjoyable. From facilitating international trade, to fixing potholes, to brewing the perfect cup of tea. Expect a mixture of bite-sized and in-depth episodes and frequent series, such as the monthly Standards Desk of News and Standards in 10 Minutes. And regular features too, including the popular My Favourite Standard. Sometimes serious, sometimes light-hearted, though always informative, educational and engaging, The Standards Show is the podcast for anyone working in standards, using standards, studying and researching standards, or just plain curious about standards. Matthew Chiles is a stakeholder relations specialist and has been communicating policy ideas and programmes for over 20 years. Cindy Parokkil is an experienced economist and international development practitioner. [The Standards Show was formerly the BSI Education Podcast]

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Standards Desk of News | February 2025 8:26

4 days ago8:26

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The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news. The Standards Desk of News for February 2025: Formula E on track to Net Zero Standards at the heart of UK public policy New standard to drive circular design in lighting New standards to drive circular design of fishing gear Trustworthy AI standards for consumers Have your say on Terms & Conditions Series | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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IEC Young Professionals Programme | Tom Ruddell's audio diary 26:02

20 days ago26:02

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Every year, BSI and its partners offer young engineers an incredible, all-expenses-paid opportunity to participate in the prestigious IEC Young Professionals Programme. This programme – integrated into the annual IEC General Meeting - brings together the next generation of expert engineers, technicians, and managers from around the globe. Participants gain a unique platform to influence the future of international standardization and conformity assessment in the fast-evolving field of electrotechnology. In this episode, Design Engineer Tom Ruddell shares his experiences representing BSI and the UK at the IEC Young Professionals Programme in Edinburgh in 2024. Through an audio diary, he reflects on his week at the IEC General Meeting, recounting the people he met, the events he participated in, and his key takeaways from the experience. Find out more about the issues raised in this episode IEC Young Professionals Programme Get involved with standards BS 8887-221 Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Audiobook | Whitepaper - Understanding sustainable food systems 18:09

29 days ago18:09

18:09

BSI Whitepapers provide expert insights, guidance, and analysis on various topics related to standards, compliance, and best practices. They are designed to inform and educate organizations, industries, and policymakers about emerging trends, challenges, and opportunities in areas where standards play a critical role. This episode is an audio-abridged version of the BSI White Paper: Understanding sustainable food systems. Published in August 2024, the Whitepaper reveals that the global food sector is responsible for a third of all greenhouse gas emissions, 60% of global biodiversity loss, and two-thirds of deforestation, while a third of all food produced is wasted. This underscores the urgent need for change. By aligning with the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals and adopting sustainability standards, organizations can lead the way. Implementing changes across farming, manufacturing, and retail practices will drive positive impact, enhance public health, and promote low-carbon, sustainable diets. Series | Audiobooks Find out more about the issues raised in this episode Whitepaper | Understanding sustainable food systems BSI | Sustainability in food Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards Desk of News | December 2024 and January 2025 9:03

5 weeks ago9:03

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The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news. The Standards Desk of News for December 2024 and January 2025: Supporting suicide prevention CEN and CENELEC Standards + Innovations Awards 2024 New fire safety standard Enhancing rail passenger ride comfort Gathering the experiences of Covid career starters Have your say on Nature Capital Accounting Series | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Why I am a standards-maker | Alistair Mackinnon 21:42

6 weeks ago21:42

21:42

Standards affect all of us every day, wherever we go, whatever we do. By defining good practice, they help people and organizations to do things better. For all sorts of things, from nanotechnology to Net Zero guidance. And these standards are made by standards-makers – tens of thousands of people from around the world - who get together to agree good practice to the way things are made and done. All helping to make life easier, safer, and more enjoyable. In this episode, Matthew speaks to Alistair Mackinnon, standards-maker and Chair of IECRE – the conformity assessment system for renewable energy. Alistair describes his motivations for getting and staying involved in standards, the impact standards-making has had on his career, and his advice to anyone considering getting involved in standards. Series | Why I am a standards-maker Find out more about the issues raised in this episode IECRE IEC 61400 series | Wind turbines Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Why I am a standards-maker | Andy Clowes 12:06

7 weeks ago12:06

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Standards affect all of us every day, wherever we go, whatever we do. By defining good practice, they help people and organizations to do things better. For all sorts of things, from nanotechnology to Net Zero guidance. And these standards are made by standards-makers – tens of thousands of people from around the world - who get together to agree good practice to the way things are made and done. All helping to make life easier, safer, and more enjoyable. In this episode, Matthew speaks to Andy Clowes, standards-maker and CPIN coordinator in the area of sustainability. Andy describes his motivations for getting involved in standards, the role of standards in consumer protection, and his proudest standard-making moments so far. Series | Why I am a standards-maker Find out more about the issues raised in this episode CPIN IWA 48 | ESG implementation principles Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Why I am a standards-maker | Geraldine Cosh 9:50

8 weeks ago9:50

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Standards affect all of us every day, wherever we go, whatever we do. By defining good practice, they help people and organizations to do things better. For all sorts of things, from nanotechnology to Net Zero guidance. And these standards are made by standards-makers – tens of thousands of people from around the world - who get together to agree good practice to the way things are made and done. All helping to make life easier, safer, and more enjoyable. In this episode, Matthew speaks to product safety specialist Geraldine Cosh , a standards-maker in the area of childcare articles. Geraldine describes her motivations for getting and staying involved in standards, the role of standards in consumer protection, and her proudest standards-making moments so far. Series | Why I am a standards-maker Find out more about the issues raised in this episode CPIN PAS 7050 | Bringing safe products to market PAS 7055 | Button and coin batteries safety PAS 7100 | Product recall Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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ISO 7101 global tour 34:36

11 weeks ago34:36

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In this episode, Matthew takes another look at ISO 7101 – the ground-breaking international standard for healthcare quality management. With BSI colleague Angela McCaskill he goes on a virtual whistle-stop tour of countries already embracing ISO 7101 and showcasing how it’s being put into practice. Find out more about the issues raised in this episode ISO 7101 Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards Desk of News | November 2024 6:47

14 weeks ago6:47

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The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news. The Standards Desk of News for November: BSI research on the growing public confidence in AI Announcing the 2024 IEC Lord Kelvin award winner ISO publishes new implementation principles for ESG Have your say on the Eurocodes structural design standards Series | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Audiobook | Whitepaper - Innovating for our future 17:55

14 weeks ago17:55

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BSI Whitepapers provide expert insights, guidance, and analysis on various topics related to standards, compliance, and best practices. They are designed to inform and educate organizations, industries, and policymakers about emerging trends, challenges, and opportunities in areas where standards play a critical role. This episode is an audio-abridged version of the BSI Whitepaper: "Innovating for our future - AI, quantum, and an all-electric and connected society." Published in October 2024, the Whitepaper finds AI is increasingly expected to become a regular presence in our workplaces, functioning as a 'colleague' alongside humans. And that its potential to accelerate progress in tackling societal challenges is immense, with growing expectations about how technology and innovation, such as robotic police officers, could shape the future. Similarly, public understanding of quantum computing and the opportunities it presents is expanding. However, the Whitepaper also finds that building trust is essential to ensure that people embrace the opportunities that AI and quantum offer. And that international standards will play a crucial role in ensuring the safe and ethical implementation of these technologies. Series | Audiobooks Find out more about the issues raised in this episode Whitepaper | Innovating for our future Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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BSI Kitemark for Service Excellence 27:44

16 weeks ago27:44

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In this episode, Matthew explores the BSI Kitemark for Service Excellence. He speaks to BSI’s Julie Walker and Chris Parry about the purpose behind its development, its intended audience, and the benefits it offers to both organizations and consumers. And being The Standards Show, Julie and Chris also share their standards journeys. Find out more about the issues raised in this episode BSI Kitemark for Service Excellence Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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LatinoAmerica | Normas y protección al consumidor en Argentina 42:38

17 weeks ago42:38

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The Standards Show LatinoAmerica brings you the stories behind the standards in South America, Central America and the Caribbean. Episodes are in Spanish or Portuguese. In this episode, Andrea Sandi meets Antonino Serra, an expert on consumer law and protection. She speaks to him about the main challenges for consumer protection in the region, and how standards support consumer rights. And because it’s The Standards Show, Antonino describes his standards journey and his My Favourite Standard. The Standards Show LatinoAmérica le trae las historias detrás de las normas en Sudamerica, Centroamerica y el Caribe. Los episodios se encuentran el español o Portugues. En este episodio de LatinoAmérica Andrea Sandi conversa con Antonino Serra. Antonino reside en Argentina y es un experto en leyes nacionales e internacionales sobre protección del consumidor. Andreas habla con Antonino sobre cómo se relacionan las normas con la protección del consumidor, los principales desafíos para la protección del consumidor en la región y ejemplos claros de cómo las normas apoyan los derechos de los consumidores. Y como esto es The Standards Show también conversamos acerca de su travesía en normalización y sus normas favoritas. The Standards Show | LatinoAmerica Conoce más / Find out more IRAM Registro Nacional de Associaciones de Consumidores Consumers International Contactate con The Standards Show / Contact The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com envia un mensaje de voz Sigue y suscríbete en redes sociales / Find and follow on social media X @standardsshow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards Desk of News | October 2024 7:26

18 weeks ago7:26

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The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news. The Standards Desk of News for October: BSI’s updated MOU with the UK government 88th IEC General Meeting in Edinburgh Celebrating World Standards Day World Space Week Series | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Purpose-driven organizations 23:20

20 weeks ago23:20

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In this episode, Matthew is at the launch of the standards development process for a new international standard on purpose-driven organizations, building on PAS 808. He speaks to standards-makers Andy Brown of Anglian Water and independent pracademic Dr Victoria Hurth about the importance of corporate purpose and the ambitions for the new standard. They also dive into Anglian Water's experience with PAS 808 and how it's shaping their approach to purpose. Find out more about the issues raised in this episode New international standard for corporate purpose Standards in 10 Minutes | PAS 808 Get involved with standards Why I am a standards-maker | Victoria Hurth Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards in 10 Minutes | A guide to the IEC 10:10

21 weeks ago10:10

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In this episode of the series, Matthew and Cindy provide a 10-minute guide to the IEC – the International Electrotechnical Commission. Discover the 10 things you need to know. Series | Standards in 10 Minutes Find out more about the issues raised in this episode IEC – International Electrotechnical Commission Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards Desk of News | September 2024 6:50

22 weeks ago6:50

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The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news. The Standards Desk of News for September: ISO Annual Meeting 2024 in Columbia Launch of the fourth phase of the Commonwealth Standards Network Rise and rise of QR codes New standard for innovation management Series | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards in 10 Minutes | IEC 60079 series 9:20

23 weeks ago9:20

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In this episode of the series, Matthew and Cindy provide a 10-minute guide to the IEC 60079 series – safety in explosive atmospheres. Discover the 10 things you need to know. Series | Standards in 10 Minutes Find out more about the issues raised in this episode IEC 60079 series Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Why I am a standards-maker | Tom Ruddell 15:34

24 weeks ago15:34

15:34

Standards affect all of us every day, wherever we go, whatever we do. By defining good practice, they help people and organizations to do things better. For all sorts of things, from nanotechnology to Net Zero guidance. And these standards are made by standards-makers – tens of thousands of people from around the world - who get together to agree good practice to the way things are made and done. All helping to make life easier, safer, and more enjoyable. In this episode, Matthew speaks to Tom Ruddell, the Lead Remanufacturing Engineer at Egg Lighting, about his experiences of being a standards-maker for BS 8887-221 – Remanufacture of Luminaires. Tom describes his motivations for getting and staying involved in standards, the impact standards-making has had on his career, and his proudest standards-making moments so far. Series | Why I am a standards-maker Find out more about the issues raised in this episode BS 8887-221 – Remanufacture of Luminaires IEC 60598 Series - Luminaires Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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LatinoAmerica | Desarrollo de normas en Ecuador 29:04

26 weeks ago29:04

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The Standards Show LatinoAmerica brings you the stories behind the standards in South America, Central America and the Caribbean. Episodes are in Spanish or Portuguese. In this episode, Andrea Sandi meets Cesar Diaz, CEO at INEN - the National Standards Body for Ecuador. He describes the role of INEN for the Ecuadorian National Quality infrastructure. And being The Standards Show, he also shares his standards journey. The Standards Show LatinoAmérica le trae las historias detrás de las normas en Sudamerica, Centroamerica y el Caribe. Los episodios se encuentran el español o Portugues. En este episodio de LatinoAmérica Andrea Sandi conversa con Cesar Díaz. Cesar es Director Ejecutivo de INEN y nos habla sobre la relevancia del INEN en la infraestructura de la calidad del Ecuador, sobre su travesía en normalización y las mejores prácticas de trabajo del INEN. The Standards Show | LatinoAmerica Conoce más / Find out more INEN Contactate con The Standards Show / Contact The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com envia un mensaje de voz Sigue y suscríbete en redes sociales / Find and follow on social media X @standardsshow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards Desk of News | August 2024 7:00

27 weeks ago7:00

7:00

The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news. The Standards Desk of News for August: Paris 2024 setting a new standard for sport event sustainability Hydrogen standards roadmap for Germany New research on the business benefits of getting involved in standards Have your say on a new standard for inclusive PPE Series | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards Partnership Programme 38:49

28 weeks ago38:49

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In this episode, Matthew and Cindy look at the Standards Partnership Programme, where BSI is working with the UK Government to enhance trade and boost sustainable and inclusive growth in developing economies through skills and standards. Matthew speaks to Charles Davies from BSI about the origins of the Programme, the countries benefitting from the capacity-building activities, and the success of the Programme so far. And because it’s The Standards Show, Charles also shares his standards journey. Find out more about the issues raised in this episode Standards Partnership Programme Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards Desk of News | July 2024 7:00

31 weeks ago7:00

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The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news. The Standards Desk of News for July: Quantum Technology a top policy priority in Europe New Standardization Centre of Excellence Celebrating 30 years of geospatial standards Have your say on future flight standards Series | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Nature Investment Standards Programme 24:48

32 weeks ago24:48

24:48

In this episode, Matthew looks at the relationship between standards and the emerging area of Nature Markets. He speaks to George Sethia from BSI about the Nature Investment Standards Programme and the role it’s playing in developing trust and confidence for all market participants. He also speaks to him about BSI Flex 701, the first standard to be produced through the Programme. And because it’s The Standards Show, George also shares his standards journey. Find out more about the issues raised in this episode Nature Investment Standards Programme Nature Investment Standards Hub BSI Flex 701 Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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A new standard on net zero 43:39

34 weeks ago43:39

43:39

In this episode, Matthew and Cindy look at the latest developments the relationship between standards and the net zero transition. Matthew speaks to Shana Gallagher – Net Zero Engagement Manager at BSI – about the conversion of the ISO net zero guidelines to the first verifiable international standard on net zero. And because it’s The Standards Show, Shana also shares her standards journey. Find out more about the issues raised in this episode ISO Net Zero Guidelines ISO Net Zero Guidelines case studies Standards in 10 Minutes – IWA 42 – Net Zero Guidelines Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards Desk of News | June 2024 7:21

36 weeks ago7:21

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The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news. The Standards Desk of News for June: Combatting plastic pollution with international standards New standards for the circular economy 2024 Net Zero Barometer report Celebrating World Accreditation Day Series | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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LatinoAmerica | Una travesía de normalización en SudAmerica 33:16

37 weeks ago33:16

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The Standards Show LatinoAmerica brings you the stories behind the standards in South America, Central America and the Caribbean. Episodes are in Spanish or Portuguese. In this episode Andrea Sandi meets María Altamirano. María is a consultant, mentor and auditor for ISO management systems standards. She describes her standards journey and her professional relationship with international standards. The Standards Show LatinoAmerica traz para você as histórias por trás das normas na América do Sul, América Central e Caribe. Os episódios estão em espanhol ou português. En este episodio Andrea Sandi conoce a María Altamirano. María es consultora, mentora y auditora de sistemas de gestión ISO. Ella describe su travesía en normalización, los momentos que más la enorgullecen y la relevancia de las normas internacionales para sus actividades diarias. The Standards Show | LatinoAmerica Conoce más / Find out more María Altamirano ISO management system standards Contactate con The Standards Show / Contact The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com envia un mensaje de voz Sigue y suscríbete en redes sociales / Find and follow on social media X @standardsshow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards in 10 Minutes | BS 9347 9:56

38 weeks ago9:56

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In this episode of the series, Matthew and Cindy provide a 10-minute guide to BS 9347 – Facial Recognition Technology - ethical use and deployment in video surveillance-based systems. Discover the 10 things you need to know. Series | Standards in 10 Minutes Find out more BS 9347 Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Why I am a standards-maker | Dr Maria Tomlinson 19:23

39 weeks ago19:23

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Standards affect all of us every day, wherever we go, whatever we do. By defining good practice, they help people and organizations to do things better. For all sorts of things, from nanotechnology to Net Zero guidance. And these standards are made by standards-makers – tens of thousands of people from around the world - who get together to agree good practice to the way things are made and done. All helping to make life easier, safer, and more enjoyable. In this episode, Matthew speaks to Dr Maria Tomlinson, an academic at the University of Sheffield, about her experiences of being a standards-maker for BS 30416 – menstrual and menopausal health in the workplace. Maria describes her motivations for getting and staying involved in standards, the impact standards-making has had on her career, and her proudest standard-making moment so far. Series | Why I am a standards-maker Find out more about the issues raised in this episode BS 30416 Dr Maria Tomlinson Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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Standards Desk of News | May 2024 6:49

40 weeks ago6:49

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The Standards Desk of News is news about standards and standards in the news. The Standards Desk of News for May: S7 Summit – the G7 standardization New guidelines on promoting gender equality Standardization strategy for Fiji Consultation on the regulation of European standardization Series | Standards Desk of News Get involved with standards Get in touch with The Standards Show education@bsigroup.com send a voice message Find and follow on social media X @StandardsShow Instagram @thestandardsshow LinkedIn | The Standards Show…

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PAS 5222 | Child safeguarding for out-of-school settings 33:40

41 weeks ago33:40