A weekly discussion for the established church about the challenges and issues church leaders face. Hosted by Sam Rainer (West Bradenton Baptist Church, Bradenton FL) and Josh King (2ND Baptist, Conway AR). The show is produced by Jay Allen (facebook.com/jayallenlive/) in Dallas TX.
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The Dropout Degree podcast with Josh King Madrid, also known as "JetSet", has been ranked as a Top 10 Business Podcast for more than 2 consecutive years (2017-2019) and has over 1M+ downloads. The goal of The Dropout Degree is to share our experiences as a young up-and-coming entrepreneurs, share inspiring stories from the most relentless business moguls and influencers, and educate you on anything and everything that you would never be able to learn in an academic classroom; to help you fin ...
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How to Lead a Whiteboard Session with Church Leadership (Ep. 383)
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What is a whiteboard session and how can you lead one with your church? Josh and Sam discuss some best practices. The term refers to a meeting in which a group of people collaborates with an open mind. The whiteboard reference implies starting fresh with nothing on the board—a “blank slate” if you’re referencing a chalkboard. The two keys to a whit…
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The Top Three Things NOT to Do as a New Pastor (Ep. 382)
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Josh and Sam share some of the lessons learned from being new pastors at a church. What are three things you don't want to do? Don't attempt to change everything. Don't start with a heavy or gimmicky sermon series. And don't "clean house" with the leadership structure. They share why these three items are off-limits early in a pastor's tenure. Epis…
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What Happened to All the Celebrity Preachers? (Ep. 381)
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For a season, it seemed like the Christian evangelical world was dominated by celebrity preachers. What happened to this movement? Josh and Sam discuss some reasons why there is less of an emphasis on big names with big platforms. The story is deeper than some of the notorious scandals. Leadership style has a lot to do with it. Episode Sponsors: Ch…
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When You're a Younger Pastor of an Older Church (Ep. 380)
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You've likely heard the horror stories of what can happen when a younger pastor goes to an older church. But it doesn't have to be this way. On this episode, Josh and Sam discuss ways this arrangement can work well. The mix of a younger pastor and an older congregation can produce a positive situation in which both thrive. Episode Sponsors: Churcht…
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The Real Momentum Driving Comeback Churches (Ep. 379)
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What gets the process of revitalization started? Momentum has to be built somehow. Josh and Sam talk about comeback churches and what you can do to start making progress. While challenging, there are certain practical steps you can take to build some momentum in your church. And once it gets going, you're well on your way to a comeback. Episode Spo…
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Should Churches Offer Bonuses to Paid Staff? The Pros and Cons (Ep. 378)
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Bonuses can be a positive motivator for church staff. Done poorly, they can be detrimental. Whether you offer merit-based bonuses is a key decision. Josh and Sam discuss the good and bad of offering bonuses and best practices for churches. The cohosts cover the types of bonuses churches can offer, when to offer them, and how to set amounts. Episode…
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Seven Styles of Preaching to Avoid (Ep. 377)
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Preachers have different personalities and should develop their own voices. However, some styles of preaching are not beneficial. Josh and Sam discuss seven styles of preaching to avoid. They discuss styles like the "look at me" preacher and the "aimless driver" preacher. Thanks go to @lukedsimmons on Twitter for the idea. Episode Sponsors: Churcht…
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Seven Handwritten Cards Every Pastor Needs to Write (Ep. 376)
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Some old-school habits are worth keeping. Handwritten notes are a quick way to make a significant impact on your congregation. But when should you write these notes? And to whom? Josh and Sam discuss seven opportunities to handwrite a note. The hosts give some advice on what to include in these notes and how often to send them. Episode Sponsors: Ch…
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Are Wednesday Nights Dead or Your Biggest Opportunity? (Ep. 375)
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The midweek gathering was once a big part of the church calendar. Josh and Sam discuss what happened to Wednesday nights and whether churches should continue using the timeslot as part of the overall strategy. Perhaps it's dead in your church. Maybe it's one of your biggest opportunities. Listen to this week's episode to find out more. Episode Spon…
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Why Pastoring a Church Is One of the Weirdest Jobs (Ep. 374)
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We all have our quirks, but churches can be especially weird. Josh and Sam delve into these eccentricities with some humor. Sharing some of their most amusing anecdotes, they embrace and celebrate the unique, often awkward, aspects of ministry. Episode Sponsors: Churchteams: Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, member…
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How to Kill Programs and Events without Hurting Your Church (Ep. 373)
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Every season has its end, and this includes church programs and events. When the moment arrives for them to go, the question arises. How should a pastor gracefully navigate ending them? Terminating a program or event is not always straightforward and may often lead to tensions within the church. In this week's episode, Josh and Sam explore various …
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How to Leave a Church without Burning It Down (Ep. 372)
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When you leave a church, what should you say as you exit? There is a time to speak up. And there is a time to shut up. But how can you discern? Josh and Sam discuss the ways you can leave a church without burning it down on this week's episode. Episode Sponsors: Churchteams: Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, member…
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The Future of KidMin for Small and Mid-Size Churches (Ep. 371)
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Children's ministry has changed rapidly in the last few years, especially at small and mid-size churches. Curriculum choices are becoming more important. Volunteer needs are creating new stress points. Anxiety among children is on the rise. And hiring is shifting as churches select internal candidates. Jenny Smith, Awana's lead curriculum developer…
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How Your Church Can Use Sports Outreach to Invite Families In (Ep. 370)
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Almost every church wants to focus more on outreach. Recreation ministry is a great way to connect with the neighborhood around your church. Unfortunately, many churches overlook the power of sports, even though the popularity of sports is overwhelming. Josh and Sam interview Kevin Drake, Executive Director of Upward Sports, to discuss how churches…
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Who Should Know What about Top Church Givers? (Ep. 369)
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Most every church has expectations with giving records. Who can know what and when? Smaller churches can be even more challenging, especially if a couple of families are giving the majority of funds. What should you do if you are the pastor? What should you do if you are the key giver? Episode Sponsors: Churchteams: Are you tired of multiple applic…
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What We Expect to Happen in Churches in 2024 (Ep. 368)
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The upcoming year could prove pivotal for many churches. Josh and Sam discuss what they expect to happen in churches in 2024. Trends in giving are changing. The roles of women in leadership could reach a boiling point in some tribes. The megachurch movement will continue to fade. And seminary education will start to shift in favor of shorter progra…
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Why Now Is the Time Every Church Should Consider Recreation Ministry (Ep. 367)
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Recreation ministry is one of the biggest opportunities for churches right now. It's a great way to connect spiritual health with physical health. Josh and Sam interview Drew Provence, the Director of Partner Engagement at Upward Sports. The three of them discuss how every church can utilize recreation ministry. Visit Upward.org/ChurchAnswers. Why …
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Making the Most of a Very Busy December (Ep. 366)
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The month of December is a chaotic mess of busyness for most pastors. Josh and Sam discuss why in this episode. The co-hosts give some practical tips on how to manage the stress of December and have a little fun. Episode Sponsors: Churchteams: Are you tired of multiple applications for church check-in, giving, membership, and scheduling? Churchteam…
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Why Pastors Consider Leaving Churches for a Marketplace Job (Ep. 365)
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There is a growing trend of pastors seeking a marketplace job outside of ministry. What's happening? Eric Hoke joins Josh and Sam to discuss the implications. More pastors are finding it difficult to make ends meet financially, while at the same time, ministry is becoming more stressful. You can learn more about some of Eric's solutions at ihelppas…
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Should Pastors Care About Making More Money? (Ep. 364)
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Does a pastor's salary matter? If so, to what degree? Art Rainer, president of Christian Money Solutions, joins Sam on this week's episode. They discuss the sensitive subject of money. Ministry can be tough for a variety of reasons, but financial frustrations are often at the top of the list. You can learn more at ChristianMoneySolutions.com. Episo…
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The Best Technology to Encourage Church Communication (Ep. 363)
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What's the best way to use technology to communicate with your church? Boyd Pelley, co-founder of Churchteams, joins Sam on the show to discuss how churches use different system to communicate with people throughout the assimilation process. When should you use texting? And when should you use a church app? We have some specific and practical answe…
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Should Every Church Staff Person Get a Computer, Cell Phone, and Other Tech Needs? (Ep. 362)
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Churches should provide basic tools for pastors and staff to accomplish their jobs. Josh and Sam discuss the best practices for providing church staff with technology needs. They share how to set up the budget and what accountability should be in place to avoid abuses of the system. Episode Sponsors: Churchteams: Are you tired of multiple applicati…
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The Debate Over Ad Hoc Committees vs. Standing Committees (Ep. 361)
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On this episode, Josh proposes what he believes is a secret weapon for church leaders. Ad Hoc committees are used to make specific decisions within a determined timeframe. Sam counters with why he believes standing committees are also important. When should you use each one? The co-hosts debate the issue. Episode Sponsors: Churchteams: Are you tire…
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Should Pastors Office Onsite or Offsite? (Ep. 360)
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Sam moved his office to the third floor of the church's education building. Josh moved his entire team to an offsite office building two miles from the church campus. Who made the best move and why? On this episode, the cohosts discuss the benefits and downsides of office arrangements. People can have an emotional connection to the church building,…
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Is the Bulletin and Print Communication Finally Dead in Churches? (Ep. 359)
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Many churches killed their worship bulletins during the pandemic. Are they totally dead? No, and they are beginning to make a comeback. Josh and Sam discuss their perspective on how churches can use print media in strategic ways. What should the print bulletin contain now? And how should it differ from your digital communication? Episode Sponsor: A…
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What's Really Happening Now at U.S. Megachurches? (Ep. 358)
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Current and accurate megachurch stats are hard to find. While there are still many megachurches in the United States, the movement is beginning to wane. What was a Baby Boomer movement is not energizing younger generations in the same way. What does the future hold? Josh and Sam take a deeper dive into the current impact of megachurches and specula…
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